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  • 07/17/2026 – How He Automates 99% of Content with Claude Code – Full Guide

    Within 5 weeks, you grew your channel to 2.7K. Your video views is 6.18 million views. Most challenging part and the most important part is the intro. First, you have the angle that you’re going to include into your thumbnail. And then when people click, you need to give them what you said into the thumbnail immediately. How did you even get started with this YouTube channel? This is going to be a very funny story. I turn behind me and I see John Kiryaku, the XCIA officer, and I was like, what do I have to lose to ask him to come on my podcast? And so I did I asked him he gave me a phone number and I just texted him twice a day until he showed up. For those of them who scared to go out and ask for these things. What advice do you have for them? The way I was able to get a bit more extroverted is I started seeing it as more of a game. Tell me your the whole process cuz you’re using 99% of code. What is the very first step that I should follow? I refuse to use anything else. All of the shorts that you mentioned were all made in a single day and then scheduled for 2 weeks. If somebody’s staying until the end of this podcast, what is one value they’re going to gain out of this podcast today? Hey, Lazarus, I am so happy that you’re here today. I personally have so many questions about you in general because you grew your channel really fast. I mean, within 5 weeks, you grew your channel to like 2.7K and your video views within 5 weeks is 6.18 million views, which is insane. And the people that you’re bringing for your podcast, they’re top tier. So, we want to hear from you how you’re doing this starting from zero. Honestly, last year you told me off the camera you were going door to door last year and you’re a little bit lost, but now you have a client who’s doing 8 figureure business. It’s just everything is just happening all at once it feels like. So I want to hear more from you. The very first question that I want to ask is if somebody’s staying until the end of this podcast, what is one value they’re going to gain out of this podcast today? I would say first of all from a mindset perspective they’re going to understand why it’s so important to leverage AI for anything that is that you want to do even that is business content creation or even a hobby but also if you’re more interested on the podcast podcast side of things you’re going to know how to basically produce a whole podcast from beginning to end using cloud code I love that and you told me that you are using 99% using cloud code this whole thing I I refuse to use anything else is anything else. Oh, that’s awesome. You know what? So, let’s actually deep dive into that. But before we walk through where you walk us through the exact formula because today you’re going to walk us through how you turn in the long form video to short form video and your short form average is about 50K per short form. So, we are going to learn all of that because you’re using cloud code to do it. But I just want to get into how did you even get started with this YouTube channel? What was your thought behind that? This is going to be a very funny story of how it started because it honestly fell in my lap and I’m a very big believer of if you show up every single day and you will be able to recognize opportunities and when they just fall in front of you, you’ll be able to capitalize on them. And that is exactly what happened. As I mentioned to you off camera, I’ve been working on my business on myself for the past year. Before that, I was in university and also I tried a lot a lot of different side hustles including including drop shipping, Tik Tok shop, SMMA and all of them failed. But every single attempt that you make is not really a failure if you learn. And so I’ve been attending maker school which is a community where we met from. And during that time I learned how to make Loom videos which is how you get clients off of Upwork called Outreach so on and so forth. And that’s how I learned to speak and maybe socialize, I guess. My first language is not English, it is Greek. So, it definitely improved my spoken English as well. And one day I was back in Cyprus and I was eating at a tavern, just a very traditional low-key tavern. Not a lot of people know it, only the locals do. And I turn behind me and I see John Kiryaku, the XCIA officer. And I turn to my dad and I’m like, “Do you know this guy? Do you know who he is?” And surprisingly I had very not very much up to date with the current celebrities but he did know John Kiryago. It’s like you have to go speak to him. So I walked up gave him my a big handshake and to my surprise he stood up and started talking to me for quite a bit of time. He was very friendly, very outgoing and I was like what do I have to lose to ask him to come on my podcast which by the way I didn’t have at all. And so I did. I asked him. He gave me a phone number and I just texted him twice a day until he showed up. Oh my god. That’s pretty much the story. You texted him twice a day. Is that what you said? And did he not respond at first or how did that work? So, he’s a very busy guy. When I would send him one text a day to figure out the logistics and then I was bumping it at the end of the day and he would always get back to me. He was always very uh friendly and very keen on making it happen. And after a few of um back and forth, I was able to book a studio, do my research using cloud code, and have him on the podcast. Gotcha. So, I just want to clarify when you met him in person, you asked him if he can join the podcast, and he said yes. Correct. Yeah. Okay. And then you were texting like twice a day just to figure out the logistics and so that he didn’t. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. And you recently got Nick’s arrive in on your channel, too. Like, that’s a great video, by the way. If you haven’t watched it, go ahead and watch it because it’s amazing. Um, but you asked some really, really good questions. So, I want to get into how you’re coming up with these questions for your podcast, but then before you do that, tell us the story how you got Nick on your podcast. So, after I got John Kiragan, I posted the video. It was doing pretty well. And as we’re part of the community, there’s a section where you can post your wins. And I was like, might as well post it on there as well. And Nick actually saw the video. He commented right under it. And I was like, again, what do I have to lose to just reach out? So I used one of the one of his techniques that he’s teaching in Maker School. So making a Loom video. And I used it against him in a way. Sent it to him and surprisingly again he said yes. So that very same week, so 5 days later, I was in a flight to Canada for 16 hours where we made the podcast happen. Oh, that’s awesome. So what did you say in the Lum video? I was like, “Hey, Nick, you recogni I hope you recognize me from the John Kiru podcast. Just like I shot my shot with him, I want to shoot it with you.” I spoke to a lot of people because I’m part of the same accountability group as you are. And I’m I asked uh the people in the group chat, “Hey guys, what questions would you have for Nick and everyone was very interested in his story and so I pitched that idea to him and I guess he liked it and so we made it happen.” Dude, I feel like you are really good at prepping but also manifest uh is that how you call it? Manifesting. Manifesting that it will come because you act as if it happened because I wasn’t part of that group, right? And when I read it, I’m like, does this this guy already got Nick? Because it just sounded like you already got him, which is kind of part of this attracting people to you. So that’s amazing because I want to touch on that. Sorry for interrupting. But about the manifesting thing, it’s very funny because are you familiar with the book Think and Grow Rich? One of the aspects is you need to write things down that you want to happen. You want to let’s say manifest. But I don’t think it’s necessarily manifesting as it is you are a bit more aware of what you’re looking for like in the long run. And so in the short run, you take better decisions to reach that end goal. Like imagine all of the decisions in a logic tree, if you have a long site, you know where to go given the situation. And what’s funny is that one of the sections from Think and Grow Rich says, “Write down the people you want to associate with to reach your goal.” And uh one was Nick, and I did meet him like 6 months later after writing it down. And then there were two other people, which I’m not going to mention yet. And I’m meeting that one other person in two weeks time, which is kind of crazy. Wow. And how how are you meeting that person, that secret guest for your YouTube, I’m guessing? Is that right? Yeah. For the podcast. Yeah. How are you meeting that person? Like how did you get if you don’t mind just sharing the story? Maybe I can share, but I’m going to keep it a bit more secret as of now just to build up a bit more suspense about the episode. But that particular person has a very strong personal brand. He is has collaborated with Whoop in the past. He has created one of their branches of how they’re generating revenue right now. And I had a very funny connection. My cousin had a friend who is friend’s brother was that guy. And so I reached out and I’m like, “Hey, I interviewed John Kiru. Would you be willing to hop on the podcast?” And she just responded with yes just yesterday. Oh gosh, that is so cool. I love it. But I’m curious like what made you fly all the way to Canada? Well, I mean, when you send someone a cold email and they respond extremely positively and you promise them something, you have to follow through. So, that was pretty much it. That’s awesome. When you started content, did you have anything in mind? I know it was kind of it happened randomly a little bit cuz you got this amazing guest. So you started your channel but did you have anything back of my mind as an example like I want to build my personal brand or I want to be like one of our top one when it comes to podcast. Do did you have anything like that? So I definitely knew I wanted to start a personal brand because it’s one of the greatest assets you can have. We definitely live in an attention economy and you have the power to collectively influence the consciousness of people. You can do whatever you want. So, okay, I know that sounded a bit bad, but it’s like you can turn it into good or you can turn it into revenue. You can influence people’s lives. And I think that’s very, very important. I never knew exactly what it was going to look like, but I think the podcast format I’m very much liking at the moment. That’s awesome. And English is not your native. Like you said, you were learning how to actually articulate or how to pronounce or how to learn like English in general while you’re learning about the sales pitch for through Loom videos. Let’s talk about uh when you first started your podcast, right, which was 5 weeks ago. Did you have any some sort of confidence issue or when it comes to English, anything like that? Not necessarily about English, but about tonality and the level of my voice. It was definitely the I would say the only thing I would change about the interview with John and how it went. But if you’ve never done never been on camera before, at least in a studio setting with studio lights, microphones, I’ve never held a mic in the past and you have John Kiryaku which has been on the diary of a CEO. He has been on Joe Rogan got tens of millions of views. You’re bound to get stressed and so my voice was a bit lowered. Oh yeah, but that was a great podcast. So don’t even stress out about that. But how did you prep yourself mentally during that crazy setting? Oh, I didn’t. Oh, you didn’t? I didn’t. I mean, I didn’t I didn’t have the time. It was John, do you want to hop on my podcast? 3 days later, I was filming it. So, not enough time to process. And I think that’s very important in anything you want to do. Same as I’ve done skydiving in the past. And um I took the decision to skydive. Next week, I was skydiving. Didn’t have the time to back out and never looked back. And then you just flew off the plane. That’s what it is. Yeah. Like literally like the podcast. Yeah. Are you more of a if I get the prompting, I just have to act on it type of person. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Gotcha. So, do you act before you think? Sometimes. And that can lead into something that’s extremely good or extremely bad. So, I I am getting better at picking my battles with that. Still learning. That’s That’s good. So you’re rather choosing some good decisions rather compared to bad decisions so that it can just focus and you can attract the right energy. Yeah. Exactly. All right. Let’s talk about clog code Nazaros. This is what a lot of people are curious about because if some of you who are listening right now if they haven’t started their content, let’s just pretend I’m I’m that person. I want to be like you. Like with just one video I pop up and I have this fancy people on my channel. But that’s kind of unrealistic to be honest. But with Cloud Code, they can start their content because I’m a busy mama and I have a full-time job and I just have no time. So, if you’re talking to that person who’s really busy but who has simple content creation, like I want to hear the whole process. So, if you don’t mind, just share whatever you can your screen. Tell me your the whole process cuz you you’re using 99% of cloud code. What is the very first step that I should follow? Well, it’s definitely prep. But before I go into any deeper of how I work, I don’t feel like I’m very qualified to give this sort of advice. But I’m going to tell you what I did, at least for myself, how and why it worked, and then you can relate it to your particular niche. So, anything I say now is about the podcast format, but it definitely works across the board. Anything you create in content is split into three parts. is is it post pre-production, production and post-production. So for pre-production, I would say doing your research is extremely important and it has never ever ever been easier to do research than every with clo code. What I personally did for my podcast with John is I wanted to first nail down the angle because John has been in very many podcasts and a lot of them did extremely well but a lot of them kind of pretty much failed I would say. So I wanted to have a unique angle because so many sto so many of his stories are out there and I wanted to basically differentiate myself. One of those factors was Cyprus. So I asked him about the geopolitical aspect of Cypress. If you’re unaware, we’re split in two. There was big war almost 70 years ago. It’s split in half and he’s part Criate. And so I wanted to capture that audience. So finding a gap in your particular niche in your market to capitalize on as well as AI where this is going what how does he think a surveillance state is going to evolve so on and so forth but I didn’t reach those conclusions immediately I basically had clo code scrape all of his podcasts all of his transcripts put it in an index file and then I started asking him questions what are the most asked questions that I should avoid I noted that down and what are some areas he hasn’t talked or expressed his opinions about. Hey, real quick. If you’re using Claude, but you still feel like you’re only using 10% of what it can actually do, I found this free guide. It’s called a complete guide to Claude AI. And it breaks down exactly how you can set this up as a real assistant, not just a chatbot. And that’s exactly where we want to get to. And everything in here in this document is actually copy and paste ready. So, you can just start everything immediately. Just copy the prompt here right away. It walks through different projects. Basically, Claude is giving its own memory for a specific part of your work, which is the best part. So, you’re not really having to reexplain the whole process, whole context one at a time. So, this document specifically has a lot of different feature and you can use AI as your assistant. And one of them is like a new data analysis. You can use that, but my personal favorite is content. So, basically, I’m all about content. And here’s a content marketing AI executive assistant that you can just copy and paste. So, this is pretty much telling you what it is in here. But for you, what I suggest you to do is just copy the prompt over here and that’s it. And you make this work. And I’ll put this link in the description below so you can get this for free. And thanks to HubSpot for sponsoring this video. Awesome. So you’re asking claw code to find the angle after scraping to make sure you have the correct data set that you want to query about. Gotcha. So you’re scraping and then what did you use exactly? Did you use claw code during this time or did you use cloud chat? Cloud code every time all the time. I don’t every time all the time got all the time. What model use 4.7 at the time? Oppus 4.7 and I use Chrome dev tools for it to be able to navigate YouTube itself and then it would just copy paste the transcript section at the bottom right. Oh, are you talking about the goo claude extensions on Google Chrome? Yeah. Okay, gotcha. And then you’re pretty much having Claude do the whole thing. That’s what it is. Scraping the data and then you find the unique angle. That’s not necessarily coming from you. It’s Claude suggesting those unique angle. Is that right? Some of them. So Claude is pretty hit or miss. So it’s basically a very good back and forth. What I really like to do with CLA for brainstorming is because if you ask it to give you one particular response is going to be very narrow-minded. So I my usual prompt is give me a 100 different angles that I can go for. I’ll read all of them. 99% of them are completely horrible. And then you find one that kind of works and you tweak and work with Clude to reach to that conclusion. Okay, that totally makes sense. you took and then make this work. What about for Nick? How did you find the unique angle for him? I think we spoke about this off camera. Maybe I might have mentioned it um here in the podcast as well, but I’m part of our community in our group and I basically asked people, what do you guys want to see? Because it’s a direct audience that I’m speaking to and I have a direct channel of communication with them as well. And so the story angle really really landed well I believe. Oh, gotcha. So that’s how you found it. Basically reaching out from other people to see what the audience actually wants to hear about this person specifically. Exactly. Okay, that’s great. And now I got the scraping part done. Let’s just say I have this one person I want to invite to podcast. I did scraping using cloud code, cloud extensions and then I found a unique angle. What is the next step is to make a script almost that shouldn’t be too rigid at least for a podcast format. If you want to relate this into a particular to another niche, let’s say AI, you would need to have sort of like a framework saying here I want to talk I want to make an intro and then have a couple of bullet points. Then I want to make a demo and have a couple of bullet points. But I believe if you try to follow a script word for word, it definitely breaks the the fluency and the way the flow and the momentum of the content. So, I would say definitely have a framework and then be able to work off of what the guest is saying, be ready to adapt and something that I did in the John Kiraku podcast. Every time he was mentioning something at the end of his sentence, I took that and then sort of maneuvered it, had a follow-up sentence to bring it on to one of the questions I had on my iPad, which I think worked well. Okay. So, your brain just had to work really fast in order for you to do that. You’re like, “Okay, the end sentence, does it match with one of the questions that I have?” Is that what you’re saying? I I almost was not listening to what he was saying. I was trying to grab on to what he was saying at any of that moment and trying to remember what questions I had and which one it relates to the most and how can I connect it to the next question. So, it’s not like you have all the questions prepped and then ask that specific question. You just have to be a little bit more flexible when it comes to asking questions. And that’s crazy. Yeah. Asking really good questions. So, let’s just say I got the script done, right? The framework. What is the next step after the script? Um, recording obviously that’s a little bit that’s more obvious, right? That’s a little bit different setting. Let’s just say we got the recording done. Okay. Because recording is different. I’m guessing you’re not using cloud code to record your video. Not yet. Not yet. Okay. But what is the next step? Let’s just say I got the recording done with this person. How can I actually edit the video? This takes the most time. This is the most frustrating part for my audience. It’s like how do I edit the video? That’s a tough question at least for the long form podcast because there’s really not too much editing going on. So if you install any code skill/reo that has capabilities of editing video such as video use or votion, if you just give the raw footage and tell it clo can you please edit my podcast so that it switches the angle every time someone is speaking it can just do that right off the box which is pretty neat. But the most challenging part and the most important p part at least in my opinion is the intro because it decides after people click. So first you have the angle that you’re going to include into your thumbnail and then when people click you need to give them what you said into the thumbnail immediately. And so what I did with Nick, I have three separate angles AB testing currently at the moment that I believe three separate or different audiences are going to be interested in to watch what Nick has to say, but the intro addresses all three. And so it the payoff happens instantly. And if you put all of your effort into the intro, then you can maximize the number of people that are sticking around till the end. So for the full transparency Nazaros, you have an editor for your long form. Is that right? For the intro, correct? For the just for the intro and then for the rest of it, you don’t. But then for your short form, you don’t have any editor. It’s just all cloud code doing it at the moment. At the moment, yeah. No, it’s working really well. So I don’t think you need to hire somebody for that. Um because it’s working really well, performing amazingly. If you don’t mind sharing us how did you actually come up with the process? people are watching this right now. How can they actually copy or the process? I’m not talking about the content. Okay. So, I would take a few steps back to talk about how I work for the intro because then it translates for the shorts. It’s basically the same framework. If you have the recording and you download it on your device, then you can just say to Clude, “Hey, access that video, transcribe it, and put uh who’s speaking when, and then the timestamps right next to it.” And then you basically have a way to interact with your video. So for my different angles that I had, I went to Claude and I said I have this three different angles for my intro. I want to have a story line where I first talk about Xperson story and then have rapid fire interesting back and forth questions at the end. Can you please read through the entirety of the transcript and find me clips that go with my script that I have for my intro? And so it creates almost this framework, this wireframe for you to work off of. And it’s the same way I used it to make my shorts. After I published the video, I this is literally the only thing I said to Claude, go into the transcript and I want you to analyze every single line, every single line one by one. I want you to help me prepare shorts for my long form content. I want it to be around a minute to maybe 2 minutes long at the maximum. Like you’re pushing emotion to the to the other person inducing emotion inducing hook at the beginning. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. Like story. Okay. Yeah. Exactly. So CL basically classify them by feeling and I wanted to see what would the viewer feel and so that’s how I ranked them from best to worst. After I had the hooks and said fear, uh, greed, happiness, gratefulness, you say which ones has the most. So let’s say I’m aimlessly doom scrolling. What is going to make me feel the most amount of difference from what I’m feeling right now, which is brain rot, let’s say. And so after finding those very compelling hooks, I said to CL, can you just make the whole clip make make the whole scripts and u after making the scripts for the clips, you then just have to make one land in the style that you want. And I can show you live if you like. Yes, create a skill for visual person. I would love to learn. Yeah, of course. Create a skill and then once you have that landed, you can just say to clo one by one run all of the all of the clips that you have prepared for me. You review them and then publish them through Xernium and then I schedule everything through Zo through close. That’s awesome. All right, that’s a lot of work, a lot of content right there. Nuros, I would love to see like what you’re actually talking about when it comes to the fear emotion, which is so smart, by the way. I haven’t used that before. So, I’m going to steal that strategy by the way. I was like, those are really, really good. But share with us what you’re exactly seeing in claw code if you don’t mind. And I would love to see if they’re putting in the Excel doc or a Google doc or whatever, like how do you even look at it? Before we move into that, I just want to say that all of the shorts that you mentioned were all made in a single day and then scheduled for two weeks. Oh, nice. Which is pretty clean, dude. Yeah, that’s why that’s how you can actually work and create content on the side, right? Exactly. CL code and hit 6 million views in in two weeks. That’s crazy. To be fair, the majority of the views were from short form. So, it’s definitely the way to go. So, this is what he was talking about when it comes to shorts. Can you actually click the popular? What is the most view that you got from shorts? Oh, that’s the 1 million. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that one. That’s awesome. And you’re using emotion for this part, correct? I’m using you’re you’re using uh because you talked about emotions like fear, scarcity. What emotion did you use for this specific video? For all of them, it was almost always fear. Especially the reason I landed on that is because I scraped as I mentioned all of the titles as well as the transcripts from all of John’s um interviews and almost all of them played on fear because unfortunately humans experience negative emotion at a much larger scale than positive ones and so I leaned more into that and uh this one this particular short is talking about how the iron dome is not what is cracked up to be and a lot of people are very emotionally ally charged about at least geopolitics in a particular nation at the moment. And so I think this is why this has really blown up. So it’s not like a random short of the random clip. You actually did the research before you have cloud code made it. So it’s pretty much you behind the whole scene. Right. Exactly. Okay. And if you don’t mind going over your cloud code and then show us the whole process, love to love to learn from you. So, I’m going to try and do my best because unfortunately I’m very close to my limit. So, we’re going to see how far we can go. What What limit? I mean, what plan do you have with with 2001? But Fable has been brutal. $200 and you’re Yeah, you use your limit. Yeah, you can see. Yeah, it’s kind of crazy. And you have to wait for until July 10th. Tomorrow. Yeah. Tomorrow. Okay. Gotcha. I was like, when is July 10th? tomorrow. After this podcast, I’m going to take the day off and just pick up work tomorrow. I don’t necessarily have a particular framework and I think anyone that tries to copy someone else’s framework is a bit wrong. So, I’m just going to walk you through my particular thought process. So, I’m going to work on this live. Mhm. I don’t have any shorts lined up for the next video as it was just published yesterday. So, first thing I want to do is to analyze my content. analyze the colors that I’m using and then analyze the angles. So for this particular podcast with Nick, it was very dim, very dimly lit, very brownish. And so you have to choose the color of your captions first of all. And so with my editor, we worked together. Let me mute that. And we landed on this particular format, which is yellow and white, which I think looks pretty clean. I’m curious about this whole process. The color grade is that something that editor did or is that something that you use claw code? You talked about this is like brownish color, right? Like dark theme. Is that because that’s color grade on editing, I’m guessing, as well as setup a little bit. So, did your editor did that the whole process or did you? So, I flew out I found a pretty neat studio, which is what you’re seeing right now. And then the people that were operating the cameras at the moment, very helpful. I love them. Give a huge shout out to Offset Studios in Calgary and they just basically optimized the colors before sending over the raw files and it just looks fantastic. Oh, nice. That’s perfect. If you don’t mind me asking for the intro, you’re only having your editor do the intro. How did you find your editor and how much are you paying this editor? Yeah, funny story actually and I’m letting this video play because I want to take a screenshot of the captions as we speak, but the I had the podcast with John Kiru and the owner of the podcast studio recommended me this guy. He said he’s a bit expensive so I tried my luck with Upwork and I was horribly disappointed unfortunately and I was very desperate to get something of quality especially having John on the podcast. So, I reached out to the guy, phenomenal performance, obviously, and he charges $80 per minute of intro of this level of quality of animation, and I would say he’s worth every single penny. Amazing work. Honestly, this is at least I’m doing a bit of prep on how I want it to look. And so, as you’ve seen my previous shorts, they’re vertical. I think this particular scene with Nick looks pretty good in the hor horizontal format. And I’ve seen a lot of other podcasts doing this in short form where you don’t necessarily cut onto Nick. So it wouldn’t be a vertical uh sort of aspect ratio. It will it would be a horizontal and that’s what I want to do. But before we go into the styling, let’s talk with Claude and I’m going to say, “Hey Claude, so I want to work on my shorts for my Nick Sar podcast. I want you to analyze the transcript word by word and I want you to find the most compelling hooks and story lines for my shorts. I’m going to pause it right there because something that I would improve from my previous shorts is that I didn’t include myself too much into the clips. So now I’m going to tell Claude I want the hook to be me asking a question and then Nick answering. Every single hook should be me asking a question and feel free to shorten that question so that it’s extremely punchy and the watcher can get the payoff as soon as possible. So me asking the question should be a maximum of 3 seconds. Cut it as you see fit and then have Nick answer that to the maximum of 40 seconds. So the shorts should be anywhere from 40 seconds to a minute and 20 seconds. After you scrape everything, I want you to categorize what emotion the viewer is going to be feeling. Obviously, negative emotions have a more detrimental effect on the person. And so those I want you to add a bit more of um of a waiting to them and then rank them from best to worst for us to decide. I know that’s a long prompt. I No, that’s a that’s a whole your brain behind this, right? That’s your prompt. I love this. Thanks for sharing your prompt with us. Some people are curious about how did you even get to that point which is the prompt. So appreciate you showing us this. This is so cool. I love the emotion part because that’s perfect for the hook especially for shorts. So you’re making viewers feel certain way after watching this video, right? And I’m guessing for Nick, what emotion do you want to bring out of the people? I I guess I’m going to go from for the emotions that I chose for the intro. And one is FOMO, fear of missing out. People feel like AI is taking over the world and they want to choose the right side of history. If you can’t beat them, join them. So FOMO is a big one. Fear is another one. I really like fear. I feel like fear is an emotion just like any other emotion. Just people are a bit uncomfortable experiencing it and that’s why it has a big effect when people are watching. And then I would also say motivation would be another one. So how to make it, how to be able to manifest, how to make things happen. So you’re kind of creating this FOMO and fear. So that people know they can choose the right side when it comes to AI and then motivate them eventually that they can do this as well. Exactly. Right. So thank you for that question. Actually I might throw that in there. I want you to explore the emotion of FOMO, fear of missing out, the emotion of fear as well as motivation and how Nick is going to teach them how to get to their goals. and just send that in there. For the prepping part, when it comes to scraping and also prepping for the script, how long did it take you to prep for that part, initial part? Mhm. For which particular podcast or for like scraping this person’s information as well as prepping some questions like scripting? How long did that process take you? H So 20% of that process, maybe even 10% of that process was the scraping. But then Claude is surprisingly horrible at making the questions. So it does everything so well, which was crazy. But I had to actually sit down and write the questions that I had on my mind because my thought process is I’m just a regular guy and I have these questions that I really want this person to tell me. Like I’m genuinely curious and if I’m curious about these questions, then I’m pretty sure a lot of other people are as well. And my thought process was do the scraping, have the index, so being able giving the ability to cla to be able to research what they said in the past and then just brain dumping my questions and letting Claude reframe them. Something pretty neat I did as well is I scraped all of the questions from the diary of a co. So all of um the host’s part as well as Jack Neil and I told Claude to translate my questions in the way that they asked them. So you’re scraping, you’re getting inspired by other creators as well, like what they have used and then you’re turning turning that into your own style, right? Exactly. Exactly. Okay. You were a door knocker a year ago, right? It’s pretty scary to door knock. I’ve door knocked in the past, like tens of thousands of doors. A a ton of doors in the past. It’s pretty scary every single time. It doesn’t matter how many times you do it, you just don’t know who you’re going to get and the answer you’re going to get. is do you think that helped you when it comes to asking for podcast or cold DM cold outreach because I like your mindset. You said I’m not going to lose anything. So for those of them who scared to go out and ask for these things, what advice do you have for them? Oh, this is going to sound very funny. So I was pretty I was a pretty introverted kid. The way I was able to get a bit more extroverted is I started seeing it as more of a game because every time you interact with someone, it’s like going to the casino. Let’s say you play blackjack. You don’t know the card that you’re going to get next. And that is how you get that dopamine hit. Same is with socializing, interacting, knocking on doors. If you can get excited of what kind of person am I going to speak to, how can I get from A to B with this particular person? Each particular person is a challenge. Each individual person works differently and they have their particular way that they respond to. And so I see it like a game, like a puzzle that I can solve. And each time I just try to get better. And so if you’re worried, just start playing. Aim for failures. Say, “My goal is to get rejected 100 times and I promise you, you’re going to get your first win before you reach that.” You made the game out of the whole failure system. I love that. That’s That’s super cool. Oh, I’m going to take I got to write this down. Like just Yes. Because for even for me too, I get a little bit scared when it when it comes to saying, you know, people saying no to me, which is insane because I’ve been heard no multiple times. I’ve been in sales industry over 10 plus years. So, I should know this better. But each time when people say no, I kind of relate that to me even though it’s not. It’s my product. It’s my services. But so that’s really good to hear that you know you’re playing game out of this and then eventually you’re going to get better. Yeah. It’s not necessarily getting the no. It’s how far can you go before you get the no. If you get the no instantly that’s worse than getting very close to the sale and not getting the no because now you know I can take you 90% of the way there. I just need to get better at that 10%. Yeah. I love that. So good. Your next person you already got this person. The third you tal you mentioned three people the last person you’re going to use connections I’m guessing or anything that you can after getting a few guests on the podcast you can leverage that in the sense that you get authority just by correlation and then if you’re genuine with the people that you meet you can just ask them to connect you to someone if there’s a genuine connection between you and the person you meet they’re be going to be more than willing to connect you forward That’s awesome. All right, let’s talk about money part. How much did it cost for you to do this whole thing excluding the flight? Excluding the flight. Oh my god, that was almost all of it. That’s like a third of it. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. But I I personally wouldn’t go on an I wouldn’t personally for the first video ever say do an online podcast because in person you get a different connection with the person you’re connecting. So if your goal is to connect with as many people as possible, in person works the best. But if your goal is to make as much content as fast as possible, then do online. So it depends on your goal. And and Cl just finished. So I see both aspects, but one is a long-term play and the other one is I wouldn’t say a short-term, but you definitely see the returns a lot more instantly with the online just like we’re doing now. You’re not going off the clock. Like you’re doing everything from here. It’s literally giving everything here because for me I use Excel like Google sheet and then it’s putting everything there but you’re not connecting anything. Yeah, absolutely nothing. Uh sometimes I can use superbase if I want to keep them longterm but it’s just having a very cool and clean uh folder structure over here. So as you can see here on the left this is my workspace that I use every single day. I have this is also backed up on GitHub so I can also access it through any computer and it’s separated by clients let’s say so at least for the projects that I’m doing right now I have my client here I have my company project so my website my internal dashboard my client dashboard and then here you have my podcasts underneath you can see jagnil is hopefully the next one but John Gyago next arrive and then here you can see the whole system that is in place you can see the thumbnails, the trailers, the transcripts, and then you also have the cloud.mmd that tells claude exactly what we’re doing and what we’re aiming for as well as giving the sources. You’re having claw code create thumbnails too. Yeah, I give it access to GPT image 2. Okay, gotcha. Oh, using the API key from open router or Yeah, open AI. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, let’s go back to this section. So, it’s got the emotion for your FOMO. I see that urgency. I think I just landed pretty well in the first one. AI is the new nuclear weapon. And I think Nick nailed that completely actually. And so let’s say I really like your first idea. Can you please expand on it and make the whole script based off the transcript and what cuts you’re going to make at it at each section? Optimize for retention. So make a promise at the beginning and then have the payoff at the very end. So this is just a way of structuring the format and giving Claude the ability to not go nuts and giving him like sort of guard rails on where to go. And you have a format that you talked about horizontal, vertical, what ratio, what what um captions you want to put. That’s already all taken care of. Claude knows that already. Correct. Exactly. But that was for the particular podcast that was with John Kiryaku. If you have a different setting at each time. So let’s go back. My captions for John Kiryago were colored red. If I were to use red here, I would have been absolutely cooked because then it would blend with the background. And so for every particular piece of content I create that I want to make shorts for, I will create a skill for that basically tells Claude how to keep the same format and uh styling every single time. Okay, gotcha. That makes sense. So Claude is reading your style or you’re screen capturing it and Claude is reading that part of it to just to mimic that. Exactly. It’s not perfect from the first get go, is it? Oh, no way. No way. You can never do that. Yeah. No way. One thing without Fable is emit. Are you using Fable for this? No. I can’t afford it at the moment. Oh yeah, that’s right. So Opus or Sonnet will be just good enough for this process. Is it? I would say Oppus is a bit better because you’re definitely using a lot of tools doing a lot of tool calls and you want to be able to navigate that uh without too much hallucination. Gotcha. That makes sense. But once you got the whole system set up, then you saw it afterwards, right? Exactly. Okay. And are you pretty technical person? That’s a good question. I would say no. Even though I do have an engineering background, I don’t have much experience with code. I was an electrical engineer, meatronic engineer, but other than just basic C for Arduinos and stuff, I have I basically learned everything from free resources on YouTube. Okay, that’s awesome. So this process you learned it from on YouTube as well. Uh this particular process you mean for creating videos? Yeah, like turning long form to short form. Not really. No, I I really like the way I try to learn stuff is by understanding the core principles and knowing how to apply them to make everything because at least my personal opinion is if you just follow what everyone else does, then you get everyone else’s results as well. In order to break out of the average or at least above a certain percentile, you need to be unique and differentiate yourself. And so this in the short term it might not be as great because it takes longer for me to reach a particular point, but after I understand it, I can then shift it to fit my particular style. I love that. It’s all about angles. It’s all about angles and being adaptable and fluid and yeah, even in nature, those who adapt survive. So yeah, that’s right. And you’re in this content game now, which is wonderful. Yes. All right. So, it looks like Claude is thinking. Is Claude actually making short form videos right now? So, it’s surprising that it’s taking that long to respond. Maybe it’s the effort level that I have, but it should be just giving me back a script. Then, we’re going to start working on how it looks. So, the process is Claude gives me transcript. Let’s say the the very basics of the format. So, vertical or horizontal and how I want it to look. And then it just makes the cuts and then we we will watch it together. After that, we bake in the captions, do the color grading, which you asked for, but since the editors did a pretty good job, I might leave it at that. And then we add the music and we’re good to go. Okay. So, the music part, you just only do it during the intro for music. In the long form content, yes, in short form, there’s always music. Yes, that’s right. I’ve realized you have the music, the suspense music going on, right? Every single short, the music was a little bit different. How did you find the music? That’s a very good question. Uh, and I should have mentioned that before. So, that was a process that I didn’t expect to work, but basically what I did, I saw all of the reals that I really liked from podcasts and saw what songs they were using, and I put them all uh in a text file, sent it to Claude, and I told him, I want these these soundtracks to be able to just put them on to any short form I make. So yazam find the exact version of the song and it found an open person’s version and actually did that. It found the exact pitch uh and made the edge to find the particular song that podcast was using. And now I have a library of 10 songs and I said to Claude, I want you to categorize each song by what emotion they cause and so analyze the emotion of the reveal that we are making and then attach the correct music in the background. That is so smart. Okay, just to recap, I want to make sure I understood you correctly. You were getting inspired by other podcasts. Let’s just say A Diary of CEO Steven Barllet used this specific music. I’m guessing it’s open source music, meaning it’s free, copyright free music. So, you download this specific music and then you attach to emotion having cloud code do that. So, whenever, let’s just say you’re doing motivation for this one clip and you got the motivation music, then cla will automatically match it and then put it together. Is that how it works? Exactly. That’s exactly how it works. Very well said. Dang, that is so smart. I’m I’m definitely using that. That’s so smart. If you give Claude a way to relate to things that is consistent across sessions, then you just increase his performance over time. How can Claude know emotion by the way? Is that from the words that they’re using? Yeah, just the transcript of the real. So it can see the transcript of this real let’s say from Steven or J or whoever conveys this emotion. So this sound must convey that as well. And if you have a big enough data set you can pick and choose what is what. So is the music without any words in it. It doesn’t work then you think um you mean just having instrumental? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely don’t put words. People get confused. Okay. So here’s the thing. How would Claude know? Let’s just say you’re like doing suspense music. We know it’s suspense because we’re human. Like let’s just say boom, I can’t even sing. But you know, pretend this is suspense music with no words. How could know this is a suspense music? Oh, okay. I I see the discrepancy. So what I described before was taking the reals and then let’s you have 100 short form, 100 pieces of short form content. Usually people that do podcasts have human editors do the music, do the editing, and so humans can reliably pick and choose which songs go where. And uh if you get enough shorts, you transcribe them and with words that are spoken. So let’s say in the podcast I say something about a war, people are fearful. If you see that piece of music being used across multiple reels that their transcript conveys fear, then it probably means that song is about fear. So you’re transcribing the the actual shorts instead of the music lyrics. Okay, that that’s the confusion part that I had. Okay, perfect. Thanks for Exactly. Yeah. So this is the script. Let me very quickly go through it. It looks pretty good. It says that the hook is going to be won’t AI just increase the gap between classes. Then Nick is going to say technology like this has never been available since atomics, nuclear weaponry, so on so forth. Looks pretty good. So I’m going to say using video use create an initial rough cut of this uh short that you have created. I want to post this on Tik Tok, Instagram, and so it’s going to be a vertical format for the actual file, but I want you to have the whole frame in it. So, minimize the horizontal version of the podcast into that vertical frame, make the cuts, and then open it up on my laptop for me to review, and we’ll work on the styling right after. Um, horizontal, vertical. I’m always confused with horizontal and vertical. I just have to like do this for my podcast because we were filming so close to each other like closeup camera. I can’t really do the vertical like I had to do horizontal. Yeah, I think that works a bit better though if I’m being honest. I think I’m of transitioning to this format as well. It stops people from scrolling because I think people are too used to the vertical. Yeah, I know. I’m gonna use that because I have a podcast with Sabrina. um one of my first podcasts or even before and I just want to like use that section of it and then I’m putting the title hook on top as well so that yeah that’s extremely useful yeah and I was doing that initially with clo but then I saw it was performing well without it as well but I do have a skill that it’s like slide let me see if it’s still on here because I just changed the laptop yeah add label so you can see here the skill says that you add a story style label white rounded pill just like the Instagram stickers to finish the reel and then it just says just find the most emotional thing blah blah blah when I say add the label and it just adds a hook to the reel as well. Okay, that’s really helpful. Are you using other platforms other than just YouTube? Um so using Xerno I’m posting on Instagram, Tik Tok, Twitter which is doing nothing. Gets zero views surprisingly. Twitter Yeah, Twitter is a different beast for sure. Yeah, I’m definitely cutting that off. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don’t I don’t use X right now for myself. I think I got zero followers. That’s crazy. I mean, text I think could work. And sort of like LinkedIn, you need to funnel people into that for them to be engaged. But Mhm. Should we take a look at this? Yeah, let’s do it. To come up with new stuff or even increase the gap between technology of this guy. That’s completely horrible. Completely missed the mark. Let’s see. See, even for him, he’s been doing this quite a while, but you have to redo it a couple of times. You need to analyze it a bit. See, has never been made available to any group of people really since atomics. The reason I’m listening to this for a prolonged period of time and trying to understand if Nick is talking too slow or too fast and sometimes just to increase retention I’m going to ask CL to uh increase the speed by let’s say.1%. That might increase uh retention a bit more as well. Oh that’s so that’s actually smart and clock can do that huh? Yeah it’s not bad. Yeah the hook you completely missed the mark. It needs to begin with me asking the question and then jumping right into Nick. I want you to cross reference the transcript and look at the exact timestamps for you to make the cuts correctly and then actually visually review that you have actually made the correct cuts. Also increase the speed of Nick talking by.1%. Let’s talk about the thumbnail a little bit while we’re waiting. For shorts, do you have a specific thumbnail that you use? No, just the third frame always. Yeah, gotcha. Doesn’t really matter. Doesn’t really matter. Zo. And how are you using Jour during this process? Let’s just say Claude is done editing the video. You like it. So you save it in the folder and do you title it? One, two, three. Or how does that work? So maybe I can, as we’re working here, pop my John Kago podcast clips. I have them selected by tier. So tier one is the most efficient ones, the most attracting ones, then tier two, tier three. And what I like to do is since I’m posting four times a day, I want to have one tier clip every single day and then backfill the rest with tier two and tier three. Wait, hold on for a second. You’re posting four times a day? I was. Yeah, because I made 60 reels and it was I was just scheduling them to one at 12, one at 6, one at 12, and then one at 6 again. Okay. Wow, that’s amazing. Great work. You can see here that they’re ranked as well. So this is apparently what we thought with Claudia was going to be performing the best but uh it apparently didn’t and I think actually the best performing one which was the Aron Dome must have been a tier two which is surprising and as soon your prep document that you sent me one of the questions was going to be how did I pick which parts go like become clips and which ones don’t and the answer is they all turn into clips and then you let the market decide and at least Particularly on YouTube, you there’s no penalty in you posting at four times a day. And so you see what works. Even the worst performing ones may generate $10 worth of revenue and then you see the ones that have generated the most revenue and you double down on them on other platforms as well. Gotcha. Well, that is such a smart process. How did you learn all of this? Like really? Like you’re So once you’re into something, you kind of deep dive into something, don’t you? Yeah, but at least particularly with um content. I’ve been consuming it all my life and I like recognizing patterns and so I think it has been building up at the back of my mind for the last 23 years and it’s just coming out right now. And thanks for sharing your tips with us. I just absolutely love this because it’s very approachable. You just barely started it 5 weeks ago. I mean, anybody who’s listening right now, not necessarily podcast related, but I like your mindset how you’re starting this and also how you can simplify the process using clock code. Exactly. Keeping it simple. Moving moving fast. Moving super fast. Yeah, really fast. But four videos, that’s super cool because you don’t that means you don’t have to be on your phone each time and then trying to upload. You don’t do that because you’re just having the API key. And Zio, I think it’s free for two accounts. Is that right? Exactly. And that’s why I’m dropping Twitter because it just charged me an extra I think8 for no views. So I think that’s gone. Yeah. Drop them. Drop them. How’s the performance in Instagram and Tik Tok? Is that pretty good? Instagram is has been doing quite well actually. I could pull that up for you if you like. Mhm. Yeah. Tik Tok hasn’t been amazing. Tik Tok doesn’t like automation tool. I feel like not necessarily. So the biggest one was 1.3 million views. Yeah, not too bad. It was like 36k likes. And the funny thing, I had my description comment CIA for the full episode. And the moment this was published, my manhat subscription ended and all of these comments haven’t gotten replied to, which sucks. Why are you using ManyHat, not Zio for this process? Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for calling me out. I should be using Zio. So Zo is free. I mean, but manhat is get can get pretty expensive. I realize I don’t know if you realize that, but every DM you send is contacts and they charge extra for contacts. Yeah. To keep it in your database. Correct. No, not necessarily. Like I delete all my contacts. It doesn’t really matter. As long as they send one DM, it’s considered as a one contact. You can’t really delete off your database. You can’t. You can’t. No, you can’t. You can’t do that. I know. I thought I thought I could. That’s why I’ve been deleting my contacts going back there. But they said, “No, as long as you send one DM, it stays as a contact.” No way. Yeah, for reals. I’m not kidding. So, because I got one video that got really viral. I think I have 400k views in one video and people commenting like 10,000. Yeah. On Instagram recently, four days ago. And look up if you want. Yeah, go for it. Sandy Lee.ai. Are Are we friends? following you. I follow you. Yeah, you follow me. Okay. I don’t think you follow me back, so I’m very offended for that. Oh, okay. You know what? I will follow you back. I’ll follow you back. I’m kidding. I’m kidding. What was it? This one right there. That one. This one. Uhhuh. Ton of views. I saw this on YouTube. Yeah, I know. And that’s the idea behind it. I got the YouTube. I’m like, might as well just create the short form right after this. It took maybe five minutes to create this and then it got viral. From that being said, whenever I use Minihat, oh, it was very pricey. So, I just switched back to Zoro. Yeah. So, you’re using it for chat automation. How’s it working for you? Oh, it’s good. Yeah. The only problem is it doesn’t have as many feature as a mini chat and it only can send one message like DM sent. That’s it. Versus Minihat has three different variation. But, Zero doesn’t have as many capability. But, I’m okay with it because it’s free. But one thing I want to say is if I were to use Many Chat for this specific thing, if I’m understanding the whole feature correctly, I would have paid $6,000 to them. Really? Yeah. Because that post got viral. Yeah. 6K. I’m like, dang. That’s not worth it. Yes. And I have worked with Minihat as well, at least for DM automation and installing an AI agent for an e-commerce brand and it was a very bad experience. Yeah. I would say Many Chat is great when it comes to follow me if you want get the link, you know, because it has a extra buttons in there. So, I guess you can force people to follow you a little bit more. I’ve tried that method too, but it just sounds a little fishy, too. So, that’s why I just don’t do that use that anymore. And yeah, it’s expensive.

    Yeah, I’m just being honest. I’m like I don’t I personally am not using that. And you could even possibly like even vibe code your own thing to do the exact same job in like two days instead. I try to vibe code the whole thing. Yeah. But yeah, dude. Um yeah, actually for the scripting part, I vibe code my app. It’s called SW Studio and I’m currently working on with an engineer that how we can do the whole scripting kind of similar to what you’re doing like but then not turning long form to short form but creating short form from the get- go and then trying to get the viral format towards the beginning and then get the script. But anyways, that’s something I’m working on right now. That sounds very interesting. And you could definitely plug the outputs of that into something like this to actually like after you film it, edits it immediately like analyzes the transcript and then executes. Yeah, exactly. I already have that for YouTube, but I just realized for beginners it’s very complicated to start content because they got to worry about so many different stuff, right? So, I’m like, you know what? Just simplify as much as possible. But for those of them who’s not wanting to use my API key because I’m using my API that’s why I charge man they can just set everything up using cloud code honestly that’s perfectly fine too. That sounds very good. Maybe I’ll check it out as well. Yeah, go for it. This government sure about that. Should I let Yes, go ahead please. You’re going to have access to this frontier models. Don’t you believe it’s going to increase the gap between classes technology? So something that I really like. Claude recognized that I had a moment of silence and it jumped cut to get to the point. If it’s going to increase the gap between classes, technology of this kind has never been made available to any group of people really since atomics like nuclear weaponry. And so when atomics were made available to people temporarily, the United States a massive massive battlefield. one group of people has ultimate power and the ability to play the super crazy model and just make every person on earth that’s basically person that that’s basically what these models have the ability to do. You know the situation you’re in is inherently a little bit fragile. Is there a risk that the class gap will continue to grow? Let’s say uh for sure absolutely and I mean I think I think it will. Now that we have the the wireframe basically all we need to do is to just I’ I’ve lost that screenshot and I’m going to be very fast. One second.

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    Okay, good enough. Mhm. And what you’re doing right now is you’re capturing the the captions. Okay. Exactly. I’m capturing the captions from the style I want to use. In this case, it was my own intro, but sometimes I will get from a different reel. And so, I’m going to paste the style. I’m going to say this is looking great. Now, all we have to do is add the captions. So, at the beginning where I’m speaking, I want you to add the captions to the right side of the screen so that it doesn’t overlay with me and it’s in the middle of between the center of me and the end of the screen. And then the same for when Nick is talking, but put it on the left side. Let each word appear one at a time and let them not disappear until Nick stops talking. So, if you’re going to move from one screen of captions to the next and there is a gap in his speech, let the captions hang so that the watcher or the viewer can actually read them. Then, after you do that, add from our database the soundtrack that fits the best to this particular reel. There we go. I love that you’re producing the whole thing. Like, this is very cool to see just because you’re not just saying, “Hey, add the captions.” No, you’re like very specific because if you have the vision and you are able to communicate it with code, you’ll basically be able to turn it to life with just words. It’s like speaking to an editor. Yeah. So, how long does it take you um with the whole process right now? Like I mean maybe just 10 minutes, right? But the reason why I’m asking is because for those of them who has a full-time job, do you think creating content on the side is possible? 100%. Especially with this pretty cool new command. Have you used this before? Remote control. Uh, not really, but I know how to use it. It was buggy when I was using it. Yeah. Oh, it’s great now. It’s amazing. So, if you just do that and I’ve actually made a couple of I made my thumbnail while I was at the gym and just talking to Cloud Code here and just published it on my YouTube channel. On your mobile app, you can have access to your full chat while speaking to Cloud Code. If you add caffeine on your laptop here at the top, it can stay awake for a prolonged period of time. And if you’re able to have a system that you can communicate with cloud constantly and you make skills that create repeatable outputs that you can use every time you have 5 minutes off of work, you can send a prompt and then come back to it later. So 100% doable. That’s awesome. And then for remote control, where are you opening it? Are you opening it using clot app? Yeah, exactly. So let me actually show you in a bit of cleaner manner. So you go into your cloud app. Mhm. You tap on the hamburger menu on the top left. Mhm. You click on code. Oh yeah, that’s right. And then here’s your session. There you go. I need to use this more often. Yeah, it’s pretty good. Yeah, have multiple sessions as well running at the same time. It was super buggy when it launched, so I’m like, never mind. I’m not doing this anymore, but yeah. So, this is exciting. So, it’s it’s doing the whole thing right now, the captions. And man, I really appreciate you sharing all of this, Nazaros. This is such a cool framework that you share with us. And yeah, I’m excited to see what what’s coming up next. So we can see that club is thinking and it actually generated the captions and even referenced them here. That’s the gold yellow uppercase for the punchwords drop shadow. Perfect. So it has analyzed everything and it handles even the authenticator and actually visually uh verifies them. It accessed the song library and choosing the right font. Where do you download those songs again just online? Yeah. So you find a real that you like that has the music that you want. You give it to CL and then it uses like an open- source Shazam model to find it and then download it off of YouTube or whatever source it finds and just make sure that it’s not copyrighted, right? I didn’t particularly check that. But if the big dogs are using it, I would assume it’s not copyrighted. That’s right. Cuz some some songs you got to pay for some songs and I guess that’s more for long form. Shorts they don’t really care maybe. Not sure. And once it’s done, then you’re going to get the video. Correct. Yeah. And then I can just say to clo to if I like it a lot. Mhm. Just post it through through Zeno and like I can say schedule it in a day or two days at this particular time and then I just relax. It gets posted. You just talk with CL and if you can strategize along the way you can basically make anything. I’m pretty sure you know these are going to have access

    of this kind has never been made available to any group of people really since atomics like nuclear weaponry and so when atomics were made available to people temporarily you know the United States had a massive massive battlefield advantage one group of people has ultimate power and the ability let’s say to deploy this super crazy model and just nuke every person’s brain on Earth cuz that’s basically what these models have the ability to do. You know, the situation you’re in is inherently a little bit fragile. Is there a risk that the class gap will continue to grow, let’s say? Uh, for sure. Absolutely. And I mean, I think I think it will. We have like recursive self-improvement. The first company to get like a crazy recursively self-improving model like even if they get it 2 days before another thing, that’s an infinite gap of intelligence. Hey, Nazeros, I really appreciate you showing the whole process and exactly how it works. I mean, even for me, like it was really helpful to see because you got the whole framework behind your brain and you’re using Claw to automate 99% of it. So, I appreciate you coming to my podcast and sharing your wisdom with us. And yeah, no, thank you. Of course, I appreciate you, Sandy. Thank you so much for having me. It was a pleasure.

  • 10/12/2026 – The Instagram Gold Rush is Back – Do This to Make Money

    Instagram gold rush is back. I posted one video when I had 900 followers and just off this video alone, I got over 870,000 views and 52,000 comments and over 5,000 emails on my list. But not only that, I was able to grow from 900 followers to 10,000 followers within 4 days. And honestly, this feels exactly like back in 2020 when reals first got launched on Instagram. Instagram was pushing all creators who are using reals and I was one of them. I was able to grow my Instagram account to 100,000 followers within just couple of months. It was really quick and I know similar thing is happening right now because I’ve seen this moment before but honestly how much following you have that’s never the point. These four videos alone have brought me over 7,200 email list and that list is actually what makes money. Your email list is directly tied into growing your business. So, in this video, we are going to talk about how you can grow your email list, but not only that, how you can actually make money with Instagram using AI. I’ll share my full stack and workflow with you, and that way you can just copy exactly what I’ve been doing and start right away. I also made a lot of mistakes early on that cost a lot of money. So, make sure you save this video and don’t skip any of the step. In that way, you can follow exact steps. Step number one is what did I do to grow my Instagram? my exact tools, steps, and scripts. Step number two is how was I able to capture people’s email addresses? And that way you can use Instagram as lead generation platform. Step number three is different ways to actually make money with Instagram using this workflow. So without further ado, let’s get into the first step. Step number one, how I grow my Instagram. So in order for you to grow your Instagram, you have to know 8020 rule. 80% of the content you should be making towards the beginning is for the reach content which means you are trying to reach to as many people as possible. And now you may be wondering, Sandy, okay, I get that, but how can I find the right topic and how do I know which one is the broad concept? And not only that, like what about the hook? How should I do that? I’m going to cover that in about a minute. Deals you’re going to make. So the 20% means you’re going to build your personal brand. So, while 80% is trying to grab more people, 20% you’re trying to convert them, whether they’re going to become your fan or followers or even subscribers or even a buyer from your services, whatever that is. Just make sure that 20% is more personalized and you can talk about something about you. Now, let’s go back to the 80%. Because that 80% is very crucial, especially for beginners. All right. One of the reasons why this video got really popular is because I use exact same hook that I use on my YouTube. So this is my YouTube link and for this exactly same topic, I was able to test which one was working, which one was not working. And as soon as I saw this video going up like up in trend because a lot of people were interested in hearing a little bit more, I just made a quick video on Instagram. I was the outlier for this specific video and I got inspired by my own content. Now, if you don’t have a content and you don’t know which one is working, which one’s not working, that’s okay. What you have to do is find other people’s content and you are going to get inspired by other people’s content. I’m not saying you need to just copy other people’s content, copy and paste, be a copycat. No, that’s not what I’m trying to say. You always want to make sure you share your own story, your own thought or whatever research that you did. Something that I will say is getting inspired by other people’s hook. The first one sentence or one to two sentences. That is very important. Even one of the biggest creator, Mr. Beast, he’s doing that too. He’s getting inspired by other people’s thumbnail and other people’s title as well as just the topic in general as well. Now, why do we do that is because it’s proven. So, you know that people like it. And if you pay close attention to all different brands and heck, even like AI, Chad GPT is always trying to compete with Claude and Enthropic OpenAI, same thing. They’re just going back and forth. It’s because they’re keep learning from each other. And that’s what I want you to do. I want you to learn from other creators. Don’t try to be original. This is not where you should be original, but you should be authentic. Being authentic and being original is completely different thing. A lot of people merge it together and they think if you’re original, you’re authentic. No, being authentic, that means you’re being true to yourself and you hold accountable of what you’re talking about and you know what you’re talking about. That’s being authentic. But being original is you’re starting from scratch. You’re not even getting inspired from other other things. You’re just making things up. That is not a bad thing to do. And I want you to do that for the remaining 20%. However, for the main 80%, I want you to get inspired by other topic, other creators, and try to copy their hook. But for the main part, you do your own research and make sure it’s different. That’s my suggestion. If you don’t know which creator to study, then what you should be doing is you should be studying one person, just one person or two that you really like. So, let’s just say I really like this creator. Try to see who this creator is actually following. And if you look at the list of the people they’re following, I want you to follow those people. And if they’re following some people that they personally know, don’t follow them. But just anything that’s going to be helpful for you to create content, I want you to follow those. And then you’re going to go with the next creator, do the same thing, and then next creator do the same thing. If you do anywhere between three to five creators, then you’re solid. Those are the people that you’ll be studying to find those outlier videos so you can get the right hook from them. Okay, let’s talk about one other logistic thing which is editing videos. So, Meta has a creator program and I’m part of their creators program. And when they called me, they said editing video is actually not as important as what a lot of different people think. And I think I know why they said that is because with AI, there are so many different fancy B-roll editing and all that. And I think we as a human, we’re just kind of sick of the same content all the time. So if somebody does not have fancy editing, I feel like we relate to them a little bit more because they just seem more human than AI. Fancy editing is not needed. If that’s what’s holding you back, just cut it. Just do very very basic, you know, just remove and whatever you can do to make it sound good, not look good. That’s the only thing that I would focus on. But I wouldn’t spend more than 20 minutes per video, if that. All right. The next thing that I want to figure out is consistency and batching content. Being consistent on social media platform is hard. My gosh, it’s so hard. Even for me, I’ve been doing this since 2018 and I so struggle to be consistent on social media because here’s the thing. Whenever we’re on social media and we want to study other people’s platform and their videos that often times we are just being stuck into this doom scrolling, right? this algorithm are so addictive that we just doom scroll a lot. So I found the solution to this and I’m going to share that with you in about a minute. But let’s actually go over how can we become more consistent. In order for you to be consistent, you have to know exactly how much time you have. If you overpromise when it comes to the result such as like I’m going to post three times a day as an example, then you if you don’t do that then mentally you’re just attacking yourself. You keep telling yourself, “I’m not good enough because I’m not doing this. I should have done this, but I didn’t do this.” That’s not good for you. No, that’s not good for your brain. So, what I want you to do instead is exactly find out how much time you got and try to allocate that time to this specific task. And once you set the system, it’s going to be so much easier. And that, my friend, it took me a while to figure this out. And I have all this other things that I personally had which is imposter syndrome which I talked about that in one of my videos on Instagram like being a perfectionist. Nobody cares. They don’t like it’s you who cares. And I’m saying this to myself as I’m speaking to you right now. So the most important thing is you just create content. That’s what it is. Let’s talk about step number two which is so important. I’m assuming you are too. Okay. A lot of people who come to me, we’re not famous like celebrity or we’re not wanting to become this famous creator or none of that, but we want to make money. Yeah. We want to grow our business. We’re more of entrepreneur. So, I call that like creator founder instead of creator creator, you know, who just we’re not Kim Kardashian or any of that. That’s what I’m trying to say. From that being said, what’s really important is you want to turn every single video into a lead. Some sort of ROI has to be there. ROI means return on investment. Instagram can kick you out at any time. YouTube can kick us out at any time. It’s up to them. Whatever rule they have, they can just kick us out, which is not fair, by the way. But they’re the owner of the platform, so I guess they get to do whatever they want. What I’m trying to say is you have to build your own lead. Okay? You have to build your own email list. And that’s what we’re going to talk about. turning the social media platform into the lead generation machine. So step number one, what we should be doing is in every single video you should have CTA. CTA means call to action. They got to act on something. That’s pretty much what it is. And one of the best strategy when it comes to CTA for Instagram, now YouTube is different, but Instagram is you’re building up the value of this free document you’re going to give or free resource you’re going to give. You’re trying to make it sound really interesting, really engaging to a point. Oh my gosh, I want to know. What is this thing? What is this link? I want to know. You’re trying to like build that up in that 30 seconds. And eventually at the end, you’re asking people literally, if you want this link, comment link and I’ll send it to you. You probably heard that a lot. I said it a lot. That’s what you want to do. CTA, you want people to take action and actually make comment. I have a couple videos on Instagram and some of them don’t have CTA and the result of that it sucks. Like not many people watch it. I haven’t collected any emails from it to a point I don’t even know why I made that video. If you’re thinking of that as a 20%, okay, I think that’s a great excuse. In my opinion, I think every single video should have CTA. So, what happens after you ask people to comment and they will send a DM. Okay, here’s a mistake that I made. Horrible mistake. When this video was first posted, this video I didn’t know it was going to get a lot of views. I had no idea legit. Generally, I’ve been getting like 200 views, you know, or 300 if I get a lot. So, I’m like, okay, maybe I’ll get 10 comments. So, I didn’t have anything set up towards the beginning. No automation platform or not whatsoever. And then when I woke up in the morning after posting, I have 600 comments in just couple of hours pretty much. And I’m like, “Holy cow, how do I respond every single one of them? I promise I’m going to DM every single one of them.” So, you know what I did? I literally went one by one, try to DM everybody. And it was so hard to a point. I was asking Claude, you know, one of the Claude extension to see if they can do it. I’m like, and they made a mistake, too. I’m like, “Oh, this is not good.” So what I did is I quickly connected to one of the social media automation tool and it was not good because it was way too expensive. And there were a couple others but either they were expensive or they didn’t have enough features. So I couldn’t really find anything perfect for my Instagram until Sabrina. Yes, she launched DM feature on Blueot. My gosh, when I heard about this direct message automation feature, I was so excited because I use Claude so much and one of the best part is you can actually connect this using Blueotato MCP to claude code or even codeex whichever agentic workflow you’re using. They can set everything for you. And after showing you the workflow, I’ll also tell you exactly what you should be doing so you can set this up for your Instagram. So basically when somebody is posting this reel over here which is one of the videos on my Instagram and they can put any keyword on the comment and if they do that what happens is I’m going to ask them to follow me. It’s like hey could you follow me real quick so I can send this to you and there is a button that is like I’m following and if they actually haven’t followed me it’s going to send this again. Hey could you please follow me? pretty annoying. And if they actually follow me, then it’s going to skip this, right? And then I’m going to send them the link right away so they have access to the URL, like to the actual resources that I promise I’m going to give to them. That’s exactly what they do. When you actually click this URL, what’s going to happen is then people have to put their first name as well as their email address and click if it’s okay for me to send emails and then get free access. That’s exactly what they’re going to do. And this is how I collect people’s emails. And one of the best part of Bullato is you can customize this as much as you want. Every single business and where they’re at, their thought process is all different. So you don’t have to follow exactly how I’m doing it. In fact, you don’t even have to ask people to follow you. It’s up to you, but you can do whichever way you want. And I’m going to show you right now how you can set this up. So, what we’re going to do is we are going to set everything up in Blueot using MCP. For this specific video, I’m using Cloud Code because I already have Cloud Code connected to Blueato. But if you’re using OpenAI like Codex, then what I want you to do is just check this out. There’s a how can I set up Lotato MCP instead of chatbt and you can use this and there’s instruction in here and Sabrina actually has a couple videos that you can watch on YouTube. So there’s a step-by-step tutorial of how you can show how to use. So that’s what I would do and here I am in cloud code and in this case I already have MCP connected. So I just want to see in the MCP connections for Blueot and I’m going to double check if everything’s all good to go. Yes. And if you’re curious, this is the Blueot MCP. So just copy this and make sure your Blueot is connected to cloud code. And the other thing that I like to do sometimes uh writing deleting tools. Yes, I like that it’s need approval, but also let’s see read only tools. Yeah, some of the tools they you can always allow and some of the tools that you don’t always allow, but I feel like DM is pretty sensitive. So, I’m just going to have need approval for all of it. And what I’m going to do now is literally connecting Blueotes and to my Instagram if I haven’t done that and double check that, too. You can also do that on Blue Bull’s website, but I personally like to do it everything inside of Cloud Code. So, it’s a little bit easier for me to go back and forth instead of trying to figure out where things are. So, I’m just going to say, is my MCP for potato connected? I’m going to ask cloud code all these questions and it says yes MCP is connected. It just came max uh active subs. We have active subscription and okay um check if Instagram is linked and I bet your Instagram is not linked and this is where you can link your Instagram. Now, if you don’t know how to do it, the other way is ask cloud code how you can actually do that. Like, yeah, Instagram is linked at this point. Let’s just pretend that I have one video that I want to publish on Instagram and it hasn’t been published just yet. You can use blot to publish this video. I usually make three trial reel. So, the exactly the same video but different title hook. Sometimes you can do different CTA, but I usually just do different title hook and one video for faster. So times 1.5 those three videos I use cloud code to make the videos and also using blot to upload it. But before it’s uploaded I want to make sure it’s linked to the right resources. And if you actually go to one of my links I have multiple different resources per video. I have a skill that I put together for this specific skill. What AI is doing is AI is creating those links for my specific video. So when people are watching this, they can put their first and last name, email address and get access right away. So that’s what cloud code is going to do before uploading to our social media platform using Blotato. And after this is taken care of, then it’s going to upload to different social media platform. This case Instagram using Blotato. But what’s cool is after they upload it, automatic DM feature is taken care of. And I want to show you this is what I have for every single link. It’s just a little bit easier for me to see. So using cloud code I had cloud code go over here and edit this specific document IG blot and I am using feature called playwriter.dev This is what I want you to use instead of there’s another thing. There’s a playwriter uh playwright or playwriter two different things. This sounds so similar. So it drives me nuts. But playwright is from Microsoft. It sucks. It’s not as good. Sorry Microsoft. It’s just not good. But play writer is better because you don’t have to log in and log out or like don’t have access. So from that being said, I just use this. It pretty much add everything inside of this document. Now, if you look at this document, I have a real link. So, I can listen to the real right away. Topic and comment. What comment should people write to get this resource? And once they get the resource, which is the late page, what do you exactly say? And also, I want to check if this is all active and blue. Yes. All good to go. And another thing is is for some of it I want people to follow me before they get the link but some of it they don’t need to follow me you know just go straight to YouTube. So that’s why I have a check box over here. This for me is easier to see. That’s why I have everything in here. But you can also go to potato automation. Everything is in here as well. So if you just click this then you can see more visually. This is a lot a little bit more prettier. But I personally just like everything in one place. That’s why I have one extra thing. That is it. Pretty simple, right? You’re pretty much asking Claude using Blotato what they should be doing when it comes to uploading the video and also sending the DM direct message automation tool. And I’ll put the link in the description below so you can try Blotato. They have a free trial so you can try this. And thank you Blotato and Sabrina for sponsoring this video today. Even if I didn’t get the sponsorship, I would have still recommend using Blotato to anyone that I know. So I hope that was helpful. And by the way, this whole thing, this whole setup, you’re like, I’m a little confused. I got you. I have a skill that I can share with you. If you’re part of my community member, just go to classroom and go to resources and you will see everything in under skills. If you’re not part of the community member, I’ll put something together in notion doc so you can create a skill for yourself. Now, shall we talk about how to actually make money using Instagram? There are multiple different ways how you can do this but I’m going to talk about one of the most famous way. It seems like a lot of creators are doing this way. So I’m going to talk about the one of the most proven famous method and I’m going to break this down into three different ways. The very first one is sponsorship. Gosh there are so many sponsorship opportunity. There’s a lot of people who has reached out to me via email asking about Instagram sponsorship. I haven’t taken any just yet because I just want to grow my Instagram first for YouTube. Yes, I really am grateful for the sponsors who’s sponsoring me for YouTube because it’s helping my channel to grow. It’s helping me to dedicate my time more and just this business in general. But for Instagram, I was trying to do multiple different things. So, I couldn’t really do a sponsorship on top of that. But that is one of the most common things a lot of people do. There’s a lot of sponsorship opportunity. But I got to say as a beginner there’s no sponsorships. You have to grow your channel first. For those beginners are like yeah I have like I don’t know 100 followers Andy like and those are all my friends. Then sponsorship is probably not best route for you. So let’s talk about method number two what we can do. I didn’t know this but my mom told me actually pretty interesting. She said Instagram is paying people and I’m like, “Mom, that’s a scam.” But I found out it’s actually true. So, this is where you can find it. Click this hamburger menu right there. And once you click this hamburger menu, you’ll see settings and activity. Scroll down a little bit. Clicks professional dashboard and you can see like all the views you have and go monetization. So, if you go to monetization, there’s a badge, creator subscription, and bonuses. And if you click bonuses, this is where you can see, okay, you can be eligible for carousel post. And it talks about you have to be at least 18 years old. You have to live in the states, but I’m pretty sure they’re going to extend it pretty soon to another country. But basically, if you qualify for this, you will qualify for bonuses. And you have to have a lot of views, like 5 million views per month in the past 3 months. So that’s how you can actually make money using Instagram. And I’ve seen a lot of people talking about it. But the problem is you have to go viral each time because it’s purely correlated to the amount of views you get. Obviously the bonuses from live. Yeah, that’s a little bit different because that’s your true fan. But if you’re just starting out, you don’t have a true fan. So that’ll be a little bit hard. Subscription, same thing. Like why would people subscribe to you if you don’t have any following just yet? But I’m talking about those carousel and post what I just barely shared with you. But you have to have like millions of views, like a ton of views in order for you to get paid by Instagram. Now, I’ve seen people doing it. Yep, I did. I’ve seen people actually doing it and then make money and sell course of that method. I don’t know if I like that method cuz I don’t think it’s really sustainable. First of all, try to go viral on each video. Like, what would you do if Instagram goes out of business? I mean, what would you do if Instagram decide not to do this anymore? Like, not pay you? What is the outcome of that? just because sponsors will not sponsor those type of content like Panda like scratching their head, whatever. It’s I guess it’s funny and people watch it. I don’t know why it gets a lot of views, but it doesn’t really show your brand, personal brand, none of that. I personally don’t like it, but I’ve seen other people doing it. So, if you’re one of those people you’re like, I don’t care about my business. I just want to make money and I think I want to find a way to go viral, then this is the way for you. It’s not as easy as you think but it is one of the way. Now I want to talk about my favorite way. So my favorite way is number three is you promote your own services. I recommend this the most. This is the most sustainable business you can get. And if you look at my Instagram I talk about I’ll help you to make simple content. I’m the mom of three kiddos and also I have a AI content system at school like that. So, this is what I offer to people right now. As of this moment, I don’t have any other offer. The reason why I did this is because a lot of people have asked me if there’s a community where they can learn. I’m like, I’m sorry, I can’t do one-on-one, but I guess I can put something together. So, this is what I put together a couple months ago. My gosh, it’s been a while. So, from that being said, if you have an offer, you’ll just put it there and you will talk to your ICP, ideal customer person, directly. That’s what you would do. And guess what? You just learned how to collect people’s email addresses using Instagram. So, you can send emails to people, too. Don’t spam people, but send emails. Talk about your business. You never know who’s going to benefit from your business. And the only way to find that out is actually sending emails. So, I hope this was helpful. Again, Instagram is insanely pushing for new creators, small creators. So, I would say timing is just perfect. You’re watching this in the right time and I want you to start as soon as possible and definitely leverage and utilize Lotato so you don’t get burned out. Now, if you’re curious about how I was able to create my content system, I have a video right here that’s talking about that. So, make sure to watch this and if you have any questions at all, just put in the comments below.

  • 09/23/2026 – How I Got My First Client with AI – $3k per Month

    If you want to make money online using AI, but you just hate posting on social media, you’re not even good with camera, you have zero followers, no testimonials, this video is for you. And here’s what most people say. They say before you reach out to businesses, you have to have some testimonials and that way you can gain trust and show some proof. But what happens if you don’t have any testimonial? Then they say start posting online and that way that can be your proof. But what if if you don’t like to post and if you hate waiting the endless game of social media? Honestly, that’s exactly where I was 10 months ago. I had all the intention to make money online using AI, but I’m like, I don’t have any testimonials. I don’t want to go back to social media world. That was my thought. The feeling that I had was actually the exactly same feeling when I was first trying to get my credit card. When I was going to different banks trying to get credit card, they say I need credit score. And I asked him how do I get credit score is through getting a credit card. I’m like what do you mean? But anyways by using this method that I’m going to talk about in this video I was able to get my first client in AI space within 2 weeks of starting this business that was without testimonial. I didn’t have social media following in this specific area. And one of my community member, Mar, she took this exact approach. And within her first week of doing this, she closed $8,000 a month contract. And now she’s about 8 weeks in and she grew her agency to $38,000 within 8 weeks. Not to say she has a toddler as well as she has a full-time job. So she she only had 2 to three hours a day to spend towards her business. And for me, exactly the same thing. I still have my full-time job. I’m the mama of three kiddos and I still closed a deal of $3,000 within the first two weeks and soon enough I was able to increase that $3,000 to 5.5k monthly retainer because I was able to deliver the result. And as promised, I’ll be showing you exact steps and that way you can also apply this for yourself. But I just want to have a quick disclaimer. This is not a get-rich quick scheme. No, it’s not. It’s not like one of those passive income. It is not. You have to put your work to this method. So work is required and if you’re looking for something easy, this video is probably not for you. All right, so let’s break this down so you have some action items. Step number one is pick your niche and your offer. So this is what you’re going to do. You’re not going to pick just one niche and one offer, but you’re going to pick two niches and two offers. That’s exactly what you’re going to do. The reason why you’re doing that is because I want you to try one niche and one offer at least for 90 to 100 days. And if that’s not working, I need you to move fast. Okay? So, what we’re going to do is we are going to dedicate our time to really hammer down one niche and one offer towards the beginning. But I want you to have a backup plan right away. And that way, in case this first offer and first niche is not working, you are going to go to the second one right away. Because one of the most important thing is you’re getting your momentum going and you’re building muscles when it comes to actually taking actions and growing your business. So that’s the reason why I want you to pick two niches and two offers for this specific business model. And some of you might be wondering, Sandy, I don’t know my niche. I don’t know my offer. I got nothing to offer. Well, I promise you, you do. Yes. Yes, you do. It doesn’t matter if you’re a teenager. It doesn’t matter if you’ve been a stay-home mom or dad forever. What I’m about to tell you is you don’t need a job title. No, you’re not applying for a job right now. You’re applying for a job. Yes, maybe they’re looking for your previous company’s job title so they can match or whatever, but you’re not doing that. You’re building your AI agency. And for this case, what really matters is the description of what you’ve done in the past. It doesn’t matter if it’s a volunteer work you did. Doesn’t matter if it’s a job that you did description, but something that you did in the past. This is where AI can kick in. I need you to utilize AI as much as possible during this process. And that way, you’re not overwhelmed with trying to figure this out by yourself. AI is going to be your best companion with this process. And the very first prompt that you’re going to put, whether Claude or Chachi is this, this prompt specifically is going to help you find your niche and your offer. And you need to find two. Don’t forget that. And if you’re part of my community member, every single prompt and this whole process is going to be in under resources. So you can just go here and click that. And if you’re not part of my community member, just pause this video and then take a screenshot and then feed it to AI. You can do that too. Now the second prompt you’re going to ask is exactly telling AI your situation. You can tell them that hey this is the gap that I have. My situation is ABC. I’m a stay at home mom for 10 plus years and this is what I did in the past. This is my passion. Just talk to AI about your situation. So that’s the prompt that you can put in there. AI is going to ask you some questions if you put this prompt. And prompt number three is narrow it down to test fast. Yes, like I mentioned before, you’re going to pick two different niches and two different offer based on the work that you did in the past or experience that you have in the past. The AI will pinpoint this to you. I promise you it will. When I started this process, I thought I had nothing to offer. I’m like, I am not really good at this or that and I I got nothing to offer. But I didn’t realize this, but I actually have a ton to offer to people. And I didn’t realize that until I actually talked to AI about it. And the other thing is the niche that I jumped in to get my first client, which I’m going to talk to you about that in about a minute. That niche, I personally have never been in that niche before. I learn everything with AI during the whole process. So I’ll talk to you about this. But let’s go over step number two right now, which is really important step, which is finding clients. Now during this step, we’re going to talk about a couple different ways to find clients. And I’m going to tell you based on my own experience, based on my clients experience, my community members experience, my friends experience. So the very first method that I’m going to talk to you about is Upwork. Okay, Upwork. I do have mixed feelings about it just because I feel like it’s a very competitive place to find work. However, there’s a ton of people who’s willing to pay you too. So, there’s a lot of different opportunities. Supply and demand is like really really high for both. Supply and demand is high in Upwork. So, from that being said, it’s competitive but it works. And recently I had a podcast with Mar and this is exactly where she find her clients. This is where I found my client and a couple of my friends are continuously finding client through Upwork. So, if you’re a complete beginner, this is a great place to get your feet wet just because there’s a lot of different companies looking for freelancers right away. So, here is a couple tips about Upwork. So, in Upwork, something that is important, you have this verification mark. So, make sure it’s verified so you don’t look like you’re one of those scammers. And the other thing is this green button right here. It’s very fascinating because study shows that if you have this green button specifically, there is about 30%. That’s huge. 30% increase when it comes to the client hiring you. Do you know why? Because whenever you have this green button, then people feel like, oh, this person’s available to talk, so I would love to talk to talk to this person. And then they just message you right away. The other thing is make sure your pictures are a little bit more clear. I know this is a little bit blurry over here because I zoomed in so much. Make sure it’s pretty clean color. One solid color is pretty good, too. Because when I was hiring people on Upwork, everybody had like just random pictures. They’re looking aside doesn’t really look confident. So, that didn’t look that well. So, make sure it has something like that. And the other thing is if you don’t have a testimonial or proof, this is where you can put a lot of portfolio. So what businesses really care is can you do the job. So if you have a portfolio of like your past project that you’ve been working on by yourself, you know, I’m talking about if you put like one to two hours to learn this project and complete this project using clot code or codeex. This is where you can put this projects in portfolio. Back then I use NAN because cloud codes was not a thing. So this is literally what it looked like. This is pretty fascinating, isn’t it? And then you can also put some skills in here. And so there’s a lot of tips and tricks that you can learn. I actually have a video that I talk a little bit more about this specific thing that you can watch over here. Also, I do talk about how you can automate some of the application process when it comes to Upwork. In that way, you’re not against Upwork’s violation, but this AI feature will do a lot of research for you. In that way, you can save a lot of time when it comes to applying for jobs in Upwork. Okay, I want to slow down a little bit just because I want to explain to you a little bit more about my very first client when it comes to in this AI agency world. So, my very first client was in AI SEO, search engine optimization. So, back in the day, I knew a little bit about SEO just because I’ve been in sales for 10 plus year and and learned marketing throughout, but SEO was not my biggest strength and I’ve never done the actual specific work when it comes to SEO. But here’s what I knew. I knew that a lot of different people didn’t really know what AI visibility meant. So I just thought to myself if I learn this things I can be really expert in this and deliver the result for a company eventually seeing really good result and that’s exactly what I did when it comes to SEO for this specific company I work with. I was able to help with AI visibility and eventually that led to more revenue and sale. I was able to increase a monthly retainer because they’ve gained so much result out of my services. Basically, I read a trend and I understood company’s problem or some of the problems that they want to be solved and I literally talked about that. That’s what I did. And even compared to end of last year, right now is even more focused. And honestly, this whole SEO has changed a little bit. As an example, if you ask Chachip a question, they’re not going to just give you answer based on the memorization, anything like that. know they’re going to do a bunch of research about different sources they can pull up and decide if this is a trusted source versus not trusted source and then give you recommendation or answer based on their research and Gemini is doing the exactly same thing as well as perplexity clot and even Google whenever you search something on Google this is the very first thing you get is which is AI overview and it will summarize and then pull all different resources and then couple different videos that you have that is AI visibility. So honestly this is a really good niche by the way SEO itself is a really really good niche and what a lot of companies do fear is not just do I rank on Google anymore. No it’s more of a am I visible or am I invisible to AI when I search my company. That’s literally what everybody is thinking. And if they don’t have enough resource for AI to pull, they are pretty much invisible. So if you wondering what niche is a good niche, yeah, this is a fantastic niche. And honestly, when I was learning about this AI visibility and AI SEO, I had no idea how to actually do it. And one of the tool that helped me a ton and I still use this until this day is called Samrush. I partnered with Simrush in my previous video because I actively use this for my business and I do recommend this for people who’s looking to learn about SEO and improve your SEO. So for my clients that I had, I was able to use this tool. So their keyword research has been really good for their blogs which was so helpful for AI visibility. So whenever people search on ChachiBT back then so that company specifically came up each time it was always top five and thank you to Samrush who’s a sponsor of our video and they are very generous and they have offered this 14-day free trial that you can try. Usually it’s 7 days but they increased it for us so we can try it for longer. So I highly recommend this. So I’ll put the link in the description below so you can check this out. All right, let’s go with the second method of finding your client. This is actually by far one of my favorite method, which is going to the local event. And whenever you go to the local event, this one is super fascinating just because there’s a lot of different people in this world that they have not use AI. So there’s a study that talks about how 83% of the people in this world, they have not used AI in the past. And out of the 17% only 12% of the people have actually used chat GPT or claw or Gemini just the very basic AI feature and only 5% have used codeex or clot code in a agentic workflow. So from that being said, a lot of people they know the importance of AI and they feel like they’re going to get behind. They have this FOMO about around AI, especially if you go to local event. If you drop the word AI, people will be like, “Oh, I want to talk to you.” Yeah, I have to learn all of this and you will get this mixed feeling. Some people stressed out and some people just seem like they’re very interested in you to do it. This is what you can do. give this specific prompt to Claude or Chat GPT and they can find those in-person networking events for you. If you do it manually, my gosh, it takes forever. So, have AI do it and have them prioritize it and then make sure you go. And when you’re there, there are a couple things that you can do. I want you to prepare your pitch as much as possible. Okay? Try to make sure your pitch is there and just make sure you sound good. This is where you can try those two different offers. one event you can try one offer and the other event if you want to try other offer you can try to do that too and see which one you gain more attraction you can try to do that too right now we’re hammering down this one offer one niche for now right so if you were to do that going to local network event is one of the best way the other way is literally go door knocking like cold door knocking and then visiting different places but one thing that I’m going to tell you is using Samrush you’ll have a visibility tracking method so whenever You type different business’s website, you can just literally put it inside stem rush and you’ll be able to get all different insight in here. So you’ll be able to see how many visibility that you have when it comes to AI versus how many does your competitor have and what about that competitor the other competitor. So you can pull up this report and if you show this to your potential client, you can say so this is some of the report that I pulled up on the internet and honestly you have so much potential compared to your competitor. Just imagine having just imagine doubling and tripling the numbers of when it comes to AI visibility. So you can pull up couple different reports and just tell them exactly how you can help them with AI visibility. So this is one of the feature that I would use. You can use the competitor research feature here as well and the prompt research feature as well. So you’ll be able to tell which one is actually getting the volume. Kind of like a keyword research back in the day with Google. Kind of similar topic about that too. Brand performance. So there’s a lot of different tools that you can use and traffic and market is another one that I use as well. But again, I’ll put the link in the description below so you can check that out and then use it when it comes to actually visiting different places. Now let’s talk about third method of getting your first client which is through LinkedIn. LinkedIn is amazing platform. I wish I’m active on LinkedIn a little bit more personally, but I just don’t have that much time. I love YouTube. What can I say? I am focusing on Instagram soon. Like pretty soon I’m going to refocus on Instagram and then I’ll go to LinkedIn later. I just can’t do all at once. But anyways, LinkedIn is a really really good platform and one of my really good friend Jean, she talks about there’s so much opportunity on LinkedIn. It is not as saturated compared to Instagram or YouTube. If you are targeting business owners or different small business founders, entrepreneurs, LinkedIn is the best way. So, one of the strategy that I can say when it comes to LinkedIn is post a couple different things that sounds or makes you look like you’re credible and we can trust you. You telling your personal story, what the projects you’re building, the portfolio that I’m talking about, you can put that on LinkedIn. When you’re done putting that on LinkedIn, this is when you can reach out to your ideal target avatar, ideal customer avatar, ICP, ideal customer person, whatever you call it. So basically, you’re going to try to find your niche, right? Your target business owner. So for example, let’s just say it’s real estate. You want to find this different real estate agent or real estate people. And then you came up with this automation app for real estate agent and you want them to try it. this will be a perfect place to send some connections and make sure that you are very personalizing your notes when it comes to actually writing it. Now, that’s one of the ways you can do it. One thing to be aware, I don’t want you to use automation platform for LinkedIn just yet because I heard I don’t know if this is true, but LinkedIn does not like anything automated. No, they’re like no automation platform. So, it’s very easy to get banned if you are caught of using this like automation platform, automation bot or whatever. So, don’t use that, especially towards the beginning. And to get the pulse on the market, I want you to manually post things. But when it comes to the actual post you’re going to be posting, you can use AI for sure. Change it up a little bit so you can personalize. Change it up a little bit so it’s a little bit more personalized. But in general, yeah, definitely use AI to get help. And one thing that’s been working really well of LinkedIn is using those free lead magnet. And whenever you say, “Hey, if you want this PDF, then just comment something and I’ll send it to you.” Right? Make sure you connect with me or comment something and I’ll send it to you. And that’s one of the best way to literally start the conversation so you can have a good lead generation coming in for your business. Okay. So all right. So that was all step number two which is finding clients. I’m going to talk about step number three which is the most important part. It is the most important which is getting your reps in. All of this it’s a game. Just pretend that it’s a game rejection game because you’re going to get a ton of rejection. And whenever you get rejection, I don’t want you to take it personally. I want you to take it in a way. All right, one more rejection and then I’ll get 100 different rejections as an example. So it’s a game. That percentage of you getting rejected should be decreasing each time as you improve on your offer, improve on your pitch, right? So eventually you will get yes. But first couple or even like 20, 30, 40, you might get rejections and just be ready for that. It’s very normal to get rejected, but eventually if you get your reps in, somebody will say yes and you will jump on a call. That for sure. What if you don’t? That probably means your offer sucks. Remember, you have two offers. If people keep saying no, switch over to different offer.

  • 08/22/2026 – Clone These FREE AI Employees to Scale Your Business – Sandy Lee AI

    So I built 178 AI agent only using clock code and once the clock code is done with the work I get notification through discord like this on a daily basis. The best part of this AI agent is that you can use this on your phone and you don’t have to use any of the other tools other than cloud code. And honestly before I set this up I use Hermes I use open claw but the problem of that is I was keep using AI so much. It’s constant back and forth as if I have a new friend. I was too addicted to my phone. So instead of setting that up, I built the automation, complete automation system with cloud code, but I want to get just update as if they’re my real agent who’s working for me. So once the actual automation is done, then they’re going to give me the real update afterwards. That’s all I need. This literally saves so much time. So in this video, I’m going to share the whole workflow with you. how this works, what is the thought process behind this whole setup. And not only that, I’ll walk you through step by step how you can also build AI agent for your business where you can build this for your future clients so that they can save time for their business. So without further ado, let’s get straight into this. Before I explain the whole setup, this is literally what I’ve been working on in the past couple of months, which is cloud code. So cloth code is great but one of the problem of cloth code is it looks too confusing for those people who are just getting started. So, as an example, when my mom saw this, she’s like, “Oh, this [clears throat] looks too complicated. I’m just going to take a nap.” That’s what she told me. And when I first saw my friend using this, I’m like, “This is not my thing. I’m not a coder. Me and technology were not friends.” That’s what I told my friend. Honestly, Quad Code has been the game changer when it comes to running my business. I vibe coded my apps, Le Studio, and I was able to create a lot of different content using my AI agents using Quad Code. Obviously, I’m the brain behind it. So, my creativity, my thought goes behind. But any other repetitive work, simple task, clock did it for me. What I’m trying to tell you is this thing right here saved me so much time. And I feel like the only reason why I was able to run my business on top of my full-time work as a side hustle as well as taking care of my kids is because of AI. So, I’m just forever grateful. But the problem happened. The more I use cloud code, the more projects I wanted to start. And the more projects I started, the more task that was involved in it. So, keeping track of every single tab over here, I don’t know if you realize, but I have a lot of different tabs in here. Even here, that was very overwhelming. I was to a point I’m like, I need to make six different tabs in here. Yeah, that was a lot. And you can argue maybe I can open terminal but even that opening terminal I had to open terminal like multiple terminal. So this tap right here I had a lot in my laptop. That was too overwhelming to a point. I’m pretty sure I have ADD but I think I probably worsened my ADD because of this and that was what’s happening literally. One of my friend told me about this command center how he set it up. His name is Mateo and actually podcast is coming up soon. He’s going to show us the exact setup how he use it, which is a lot more advanced than mine. Mine is clock AI agent 101 versus his is like maybe 2011 or 301. So, I’m excited for the podcast to come out because you’re going to learn so much from that. He told me about this command center. Pretty much what it is is this is literally the same thing as this what I have in here. So, pretty much what it is is I have a bunch of AI agent who’s doing the work for me. So, as an example, one of the AI agent, they’re running podcast for my series. And some of you guys might know, but I started podcast pretty recently and I wanted to make sure that’s not only on YouTube, but on other platforms as well. I wanted to mainly put it on Apple podcast because I use that a lot. But in order for me to do that, I had to create in a third party platform like Spotify for creators. But finding everything in here, that was a lot of work. like I have to sign up here and then put it in the right format and then do this and that. That was way too much work to a point I just asked Quad Code, can you help? Please help me out. And now what Lily, which is my AI agent’s name, what Lily is doing is Lily is checking a podcast for my channel right here and to see what are some of the things that I have posted in my podcast and if something is missing. Lily is literally checking on daily basis and to see if something’s missing, then it’s going to go to this podcast platform, fill the information out, and then eventually it’s going to be on my Apple podcast. So if you go over here on the Apple podcast, you see my thing over here, the my podcast. Yeah, it’s great. And honestly, I have not touched this at all. Like this is all AI agent doing the work for me. And that’s the beauty of AI agent. The only reason why I was able to repurpose my videos, edit the video, and then go out there is because of these AI agents. So I’m forever grateful for that. So, it’s definitely helping me to go in multiple different platforms like Substack that I have as well. It’s repurposing my video from my YouTube to Substack. Now, like notes section, I have to come up with this. I haven’t done that just yet. I will so that it’s more personal, but it’s just helping me with my business a ton. So the thought behind this is instead of using cloud code on anti-gravity IDE or even cloud code from the app I’m using literally cloud code using terminal but I have put all the terminal in one place which is called a command center so it’s easier for me to navigate. So instead of having bunch of different terminal on my laptop everything is in one place. Now you may argue hey Sandy their claw code does have remote control setting button. Yes, they do. And it’s a great feature. You can definitely use that too. I just personally like the setup of command center and using it through terminal instead of this. There is just a lot more capability that you can use. And for me, I don’t know why, but whenever I use on the app, it has a little bit more restriction, I would say, in terms of the bypass permission mode. So that’s the reason why I prefer using it on terminal or anti-gravity IDE whenever I’m using this. So what you’re going to do is literally open a cloud code and ask this I want you to make a command center that has different AI agents and make it accessible using my phone and laptop and make sure to put passwords as security feature is in there. That’s why you want to ask and this is the most important thing which is the security feature so nobody has access to it but if you did that then cloud code will ask a couple different questions and obviously when it comes to AI agent I want you to create AI agent that is going to work for you so instead of downloading people’s AI agents which is one of the fastest way you can probably use and try to change into your own style what are some of the repetitive tasks that I’m currently doing that AI agent can help me out to master the process process and I can automate this. So as an example, one of the agent that I’m actively using is Meta Agent because recently I’ve talked to multiple different business owners and they all talk about how they use ad to advertise their you know whether school community or the app they’re building and they talked about the return on investment and then they asked me hey are you using any advertisement on Google or Facebook and silence obviously I wasn’t using any of that everything that I have was organic and to be honest, in the past I’ve used it for my other channels, which is speaking Korean to Spanish speakers, but like I think I spent overall 200 bucks or something. So, it was nothing. It was nothing compared to how people are spending millions of dollars on Facebook ad. And I thought to myself, okay, am I feeling FOMO here? Where do I even start? So, that’s my AI agent right there. Told Cloud Code where I’m at, here’s my understanding. I want you to copy how other businesses do it and get inspired by them and come to me how I can actually use some of the method for my own business and and AI agent is doing really well. So here’s what I wanted with Facebook ad. I wanted to use it for Facebook as well as Instagram. And one of the things that I’ve been working on is setting things up so that I can retarget the people who visited my site. Whether that’s sleep studio they wanted to use, they probably wanted to create content in an easier way. So they visited my site, so I know these people or they wanted to join my community and see how my community works. Either way, I what I really wanted to do is retarget those people who visit here and that way I can kind of follow them wherever they go. You know how you talk about one thing and then you search one thing and then like that thing is following you the whole time? That kind of creepy marketing strategy. Yeah, that’s the one that I’ve been trying to study and try to do because I swear everybody doesn’t. I didn’t know it existed to be honest. I’m not the ad person, but I know how effective it is. How I know how powerful it is. So, as an example, what you want to do is you want to search your competitor’s ad. What I mean by that is you want to see what they’re actually creating and see if you can try to get inspired by them and make it better, make it your style, but you want to see what’s actually working for the audience because they’ve done a lot of research and you don’t want to copy it exactly the same to make sure you don’t sound and look like a copycat. But getting inspired by it is such a helpful way. That’s literally what they’re doing as well. That’s one one of the ways you can do and one of the best way my favorite way to go is go to Facebook and search for the company that you think they’re your competitor or you want to get inspired by them. In this case, I just chose Coca-Cola for no reason. Uh I do know they use a lot of AI, so I wanted to see what their ad looks like. But where you want to go is go to about, click that, and click page transparency right here and then click see all. If you scroll all the way down, you will you will see ads from this page. Go to ad library right here. And this is pretty interesting because Coca-Cola is not doing any of the advertisement anymore according to this. At least this one, the Coca-Cola company. Maybe there’s different one, but it said there’s no active ad. So I just click inactive and you can see in the past what they’ve done. So as an example, you can watch one of the ad over here and see how this goes. I know this was 3 years ago. So just keep that in mind. This probably is not as good, but [music]

    super simple. This is probably the thing that you don’t want to make similar to this style because it’s old ad. But you get the point. You’re getting the idea. You’re try to see what’s working and what’s not working. Where you want to go next is go to hickfield.ai, click this marketing studio over here. And this is one of the go-to place when it comes to creating different ad for your video. Now it has a lot of different style that you can put literally your image of your product and then create it. Now if you don’t have a physical product and you have a app or you have services that’s totally fine too. It also has style called like poster. A lot of advertisers they also use this as well or like the marketplace. You can try to see how that would fit in. This one looks like this is ASMR video right here. and maybe another what’s in my bag video and the interview video kind of make it fun and also this style for the app product lot motion also works too. So this is where you can go and try to get inspired by how can I create different marketing image and product and honestly motion I think is my favorite so far just because it matches with my vibe. I really like the ad kind of in the back in the century type of vibe but also clean look. This is pretty cool, too. I actually really like that part of motion. So, play around. Obviously, this is just examples that you can use, but you want to create something that your style that matches with your brand kit for your business. So, I’ve been playing around to create the best ad for my Facebook before it actually launch. It’s going to launch pretty soon, by the way. Um, if you want to see my next video of how my Facebook ad is going, let me know in the comment. just write Facebook and that way I know your interest you want to see it or not. But this is literally what Cloud Code has made it using Hickfield MCP. Now if you don’t know what Hickfield MCP is pretty simple instead of going to this platform straight what you can do is you can connect Hickfield using cloud code using this code right here. Just simply copy it and then put it on your cloud code right here like that. And after going back and forth here and there, Cloud Code has made about four different videos for me, as well as a couple images that I can use. And one of the best thing that I would say is it literally grabbed my brand kit. I didn’t even tell them what my brand kit looks like, but I just told them what my website looks like, which is this. And it grabbed the color, the correct color for my brand, which is super simple, but it did that over here. It looks pretty cool. So, let’s take a look at what they’ve got for us. Okay, first of all, I like this animation. So far, it’s it’s really good. Look at this. The animation itself

    that I’m satisfied with this. That’s good enough. Just be mindful making this. If you were to hire somebody, yeah, probably it could have been a little bit better, but it probably the time the cost wise is probably 10x. This one was super simple to make. And the best part is the part that you don’t really like, you can always change it. That is the best part. and you can make it better. So the more reference that you have, the cloud code is going to use it better using HLM MCP and it’s just going to look a lot better. So that’s one thing that I want to make sure that you know like do you want to do this? It looks so funny. Yeah, I think I like the first one the best. Yeah, look at the intro. Staring at a blank content calendar. There is a system for that. Me sleep studio. Oh my gosh, that is so funny. But okay, overall I’m pretty satisfied with it. I know you may think that it’s not as good, which that is the part that you can change it and you can customize it. You can you can change as much as you want. This was just my first round. That’s literally what it is. Uh which is perfect. Turn your one video into six different post. YouTube to Yeah, that’s my LinkedIn one that I have in Slee Studio. So, I’ll be sharing how you can set that up for yourself so you don’t have to spend a ton of time on this and I’ll be putting that under resources right here. Either it can be under community exclusive or it can be um the skills by Sandy. So, you can check that out here. And if you want to create your own MD file for cloud code and I’ll put that in the description below. I’ll put in the notion documentation so you can customize it and then build your own as well. And once you’re done setting up, make sure that you have it connected whether you’re using Slack or Discord. I personally use this cord a lot compared to Slack. That’s the reason why I’m using this and it’s pretty easy setup too. If you want to set this up, have Cloud Code set it up for you. So, there is a tool called Playriter, playwriter.dev, and you can literally set anything for you. It’s been a game changer for me and I absolutely love it. And another thing that I wanted to mention is that I don’t close my laptop anymore. That’s one thing I wanted to mention. Now, if you use VPS, then you can close your laptop and use it from there. But VPS is very limited when it comes to the cloud code remotely, and I didn’t really want that. I wanted to have a full access. Maybe the amount of money I’m spending using VPS versus leaving my laptop open all the time, it’s pretty much around the same based on what I concluded. Maybe this is a little bit cheaper, honestly. And if you are curious how you can leave your laptop open, literally you ask cloud code to do it for you and then it’s going to create one of the little software system for you. Pretty much took me like 5 minutes to just prompt and accept couple different settings and that’s it. So that’s one of the thing I wanted to let you know. If you have any questions about how do I do this that always get a habit of asking clock codes straight because this is one of the skills that we can always learn which is going back to AI and asking AI what is the next step what is the next process that we can use because again having AI agent literally was a game changer.

  • 07/12/2026 – The Biggest Way to Make Money With AI in 2026

    Businesses don’t really care if it’s AI or not. You’re the CEO and then you just see like better output, more money coming in. Probably they don’t care. How can we actually make income out of that, too? If you hate it, you pivot. If you don’t hate it, you just keep going and you’ll probably end up making money. AI generated UGC content nowadays looks insanely good. Okay, I can learn all those tools. But for what? That is where you need something that you own. How can I make full-time income out of doing this? tell me step by step of how I can actually do this. What would you suggest? All right, Ally, welcome to my podcast. I’m so glad that you’re here. I’m especially excited for this episode because this topic that we’re going to talk about today, it’s been on my mind forever, like for several months now. So Alli, for those of you who don’t know him, he’s our art director and he teach at UNSW, which is UNSW. Yeah, UNSW, University of New South Wales, correct? Yeah, I teach there part-time, but I also work like professionally as an artist. Um, and also in the AI side, too, but we can talk about it later. Okay, that’s awesome. So, what we’re going to talk about today is how can you actually build your personal brand, but not in a cringe way. So, when it comes to using AI, a lot of people think this is too fake. I can’t build my brand or I can’t build my personal brand using AI because how can people actually relate using AI in general? I feel like a lot of people right now, especially in 2026, there are AI lovers and AI haters, like doomers. So, what we’re going to talk about today is how can you actually use AI in the right way? Because if you don’t use it, in my personal opinion, you’re going to fall behind. And as an artist, Alli’s going to talk to us a little bit more about how he’s using it. Yeah, I’ve been doing it for like 7 years now professionally. And I haven’t actually done an AI job yet. I’ve used AI in it, but not for like the final product. However, and by the way, this is totally derailing your intro, but the increase in job posts where I’ve seen people looking for an AI artist is really increasing now. And it’s crazy to see for me because like just a few years ago, it was like, dude, you make AI, dude, that’s slop. And now it’s like, oh, you use AI? Like they’re more keen on like seeing the new workflow. So, the shift in the industry is pretty palpable at the moment. Wow. That’s actually a really really good point. So what about we talk about how can we actually build using AI or like from an artist perspective because you were coming from non AI before you were just creating everything from scratch and then now you’re actually utilizing AI a little bit too. So I want to take your in like hot take about what’s your thought about using AI in general but also let’s talk about how can we actually make income out of that too like you talked about right what are some of the paths that people can actually use this because what a lot of people say a lot of my audience one of their concern is okay I can learn all those tools but for what why do I learn this it’s it’s interesting because I used AI initially for like automation stuff and still do you know how like we’ve spoken about this in the past like nadn make.com and like the whole reason I was learning like claude code and all that was actually all for like business purposes cuz like I would also I kind of I don’t want to say run like a full creative agency but like I was a freelancer but I would hire people too and then I had some retainers so like there was some like business stuff I had to like really think of there like managing hours invoices client emails like AI and automation actually do help you there a lot. In terms of if you want to make money from it with your audience, are they more on the business side of things or like knowledge work or are they more artistic or do you know? Yeah. So, my audience including myself, we’re more of a business side of things. So, instead of artistic like artists, they’re great, right? But my thing is you got to do something to actually make business out of it to make money. Yeah. That’s that’s my approach. Yeah. So a lot of audience who’s watching this like my channel following me they have a similar mindset. If we were to create an AI avatar as an example, why do people even create from the first place? You know like that’s my thing. You have to have a personal brand. You have to have a reason why you’re using AI first of all and then really try to go with okay after knowing why then you can actually think about how you can generate money not like randomly but they got to also perceive. Yeah. I think look it’s like a there’s like a lots of like vagueness or like there’s a broad it’s a really broad topic the whole like online scene of like how do you make money with this stuff? I think one you got to look inwards probably you got to reflect okay like what do I want to do for a career and all this sort of stuff and then even in the artist world like you got to also separate like the business from the career and like being an artist where it’s like hey you can make art for art’s sake using whatever tools you want if you want to paint stuff use a specific use blender use Higsfield like no one’s judging you just making art if you want to do it as a business like you need to start thinking like Okay, businesses look for ROI on things. So this could apply to art, this could apply to automations, this could apply to marketing people, sales people. It’s like you are basically looking for efficiencies in saving time or generating revenue or looking for bottlenecks that can be sped up internally. Um, so yeah, save time, make money, save money. There’s like three big buckets. I think that’s where you got to come at it from. Now, personal brandwise, like my favorite recent take from this, which I heard like sixish months ago, is from Dan Co, which I’m sure if you have like lots of productivity people in here or whatever, they’ come across him. And I’m not even some like mega fan of his. I just like sometimes watch his videos. People worry about niche a lot. Like when people are starting a personal brand, they’re like, “What do I talk about? What do I do?” Blah blah blah. And then you got to worry, hey, can I if I choose this niche, can I do this for one year, two years, three? Like, how are you going to transition? Is it scalable? And I think nowadays, what Dan Co said is your mission is your niche. So people follow people. Like it actually doesn’t really matter what you talk about. Obviously, there’s rules to it. You want to stay within some specific category. You want to have some sort of value, whether you’re entertaining or you’re providing knowledge or doing both or maybe you have really good creative skills and your video outputs really high quality. But you kind of want to think of like your mission and then how you would record that mission in a personal way that’s somewhat entertaining or providing value. Yeah, that’s kind of my thought on it. And like it goes back to the whole looking inwards thing. Like I don’t think you can really just start a personal brand or just get into this and then think you’re going to do it for years cuz like it takes longer than you think. Like even I’m not some big personal brand guy but I enjoy I actually enjoy making videos. So you also got to enjoy the process too. I don’t know. What are your thoughts on that whole thing? Cuz like you’re more niche specific, right? Your AI. Do you ever think about like, hey, do I want to make videos outside of this or do I always need to have this topic in mind? How do you think about it? That’s actually very interesting topic right there. That’s something that I’ve been thinking about a lot. And I actually follow Denko, a lot of different personal brand experts just to see what they’re doing. And something that I realized and found out, I don’t know if you heard of Jesse, I forgot her last name, but she’s the queen of yapping. Do you know who that is? Do you know who I’m talking about? Oh, you don’t know. Okay, you and I, we love yapping. So, like, we got to follow her. She basically became a content creator about 6 months ago. And I just barely got to know her a couple days ago, actually. But she raised her first launch for her like yapping course, $1.2 million from the yapping course. Wait, it’s called the yapping course. It’s called like whatever the yapping. Yeah, how to yap. Yeah, that’s what it is. Like the course is called How to Yap Like Pro. It’s pretty cool. But what I’m trying to say is all of that was possible because she built her personal brand and she’s like the definition of personal brand in my opinion because she can talk about whatever topic and people just watch her for her not necessarily for AI, not for Claude, not for that. Like she even does flipping furniture which is so random and that’s one of her income that she did but people just watch that because she’s she’s the one who’s doing it. kind of like actors or actresses. If you like, I don’t know, like singers Justin Bieber, you just follow Justin Bieber. You’re just listening to his song because not only because it sounds good, but also because it’s Justin Bieber. You know what I mean? Kind of similar to that personal brand. In my opinion, it people can resonate and relate to you. If you have a story, if people can relate, they can build a personal brand. Now, my question to you is, can AI build a personal brand for human? That’s what it is. So, let’s just say I’m very shy or I’m not c camera friendly or like English is not my native or I stutter a little bit. You know, that’s why a lot of people actually want to use AI for their personal brand but kind of want to hide behind the camera a little bit. So, do you think people can actually build their personal brand using AI? I’m talking about AI avatar. I think about this a lot. I think there’s a big different especially with personal brands and if you’re trying to get more reach and popularity I honestly think a form of anonymity is actually very valuable. Like you don’t you might not want your face out there anyways. You might be confident on camera or happy to talk but you just want to be more private which I think is very valid. So I totally think you can definitely create a personal brand with the whole using AI part and AI avatars. you can do that at the moment. I’m just going to give my personal take on it. Okay, so let’s go like first principles like what makes a good video and that’s generally good writing, right? You need like what are you making the video about? If it’s just like you trying to be relatable and talking to camera, you’re going to have to be on camera. If you want like an anonymous thing, you’ve probably got to have really good writing or a really good creative visual way to get people through a video. There’s this guy that basically tries to learn software and it’s just his voice. He’s talking to camera, but it’s him trying to like literally figure out how to use a software. And he’s like, it’s really fast-paced, like cutswise, but it’s like really interesting. And all you hear is his voice the whole time. And he’s like, “Ooh, look at this button. Oh, how do I do this? Oh, let me Google it.” And then you just literally watch this guy learn how to do something. And it’s pure completely faceless. Um, I’ll try to find the link and send it to you. But that’s like an example of like a faceless brand. It’s not an AI avatar. I think if you’re going the AI avatar route, you need to be careful in terms of the niche you’re picking and the audience you’re after because the audience might not respond well to it. Do you know what I mean? Like some people want to see a human talking and other people if it’s purely informational, I think an avatar could actually work. Like if you’re just like literally saying info and you’ve got a good voice model and a good avatar generation model that doesn’t feel too weird and you’ve written the script yourself, you can use AI to help you write the script, but you need to like actually write it and be like, is this engaging? Am I just like regurgitating slop? Am I providing value? You can go that route or I think a better route than the human photoreal avatar is to actually go like a stylistic character like a cartoon avatar or like um a 3D animated version or something like that. Like I follow a finance channel that’s literally just like some random person who’s like a yellow drawn blob or like kangaroo or something and he gives financial advice for people in Australia. And I literally just watch that cuz I’m like, “Dude, this is good info. His avatar’s this guy.” Whenever I see his thumbnail, I’m like, “Oh, it’s that it’s the yellow kangaroo guy.” And then like we just go from there. So, I think that’s a cool way of doing like a faceless channel where you can build a brand. I don’t know if that’s necessarily a personal brand, but I think it works if you’re providing knowledge. Mhm. I agree. Yeah. Cuz that’s another thing. We got to differentiate between brand and personal brand. But then if the personal story is behind the brand, that’s called personal brand. What is the definition of personal brand? Is that whatever character or you, yeah, you’re representing you? That’s literally what it is. I think people over complicate personal brand a lot. They’re like, it has to be very authentic. It has to be Yeah, you got to be authentic, but then what is authenticity? Let’s talk about that, right? It’s authenticity doesn’t necessarily mean you have to show your face all the time. It’s as long as you’re I agree. Yeah. You’re staying behind. You’re staying true to what you’re saying. You’re not lying. Honestly, I think that’s authenticity in my opinion. You might be passionate about a topic and you just want to talk about that topic, whatever it is, finance, philosophical stuff, relationships, you could still be very authentic and personal with your thoughts. That’s why I always go back to the writing because the writing and the voice is really what comes out of that. So, if you can write a good YouTube script, and I say script in quotation marks, like if you’ve just got an idea or story that you want to tell and you tell it well, that’s basically a personal brand. And you just got to keep doing that. But you got to make sure you enjoy it. Otherwise, it’s just different if you want to try to make it a business versus, you know, a personal brand. Yeah. Interesting. That’s And you can do both. You can do both cuz you you see like all the stuff out there. Like there’s people that you can tell only go on YouTube because it’s a funnel to their main business. And I’m not like at first I used to be a little more mad at that cuz I’m like, “Oh, dude, you’re just like maybe cuz I could also see everyone else like with the same script structure, the same thumbnail, the same this.” And I’m like, “Dude, you guys are all just like you’ve been hired by the same YouTube guy who’s doing your videos.” Like, I can tell. But then really, I’m like, “Oh, dude, they’re just using this as a business. It’s like they’re not trying to do anything else and there’s like different lanes you can take and there’s like lots of gray area between those lanes like you know you can start a paid community but because you’re really authentic people trust you more so they actually want to join you. You know what I mean? So there’s ways to go about it. Yeah. When I was a creator, I because I’ve been a creator since 2018. And when I was a creator back then, I was so scared to turn on YouTube AdSense because I didn’t want people to think she’s just trying to make money off of me. Even like starting a course, whatever. People have asked me so many times if I can do like a Zoom meeting with them, you know, they will pay me. But I didn’t do it because I wasn’t. There was huge imposter syndrome when it comes to like getting money from other people. But I realized that is the reason why I got burned out because I didn’t get paid for the work that I did. If you think about it, you’re working for a company as an example. Like they’re expecting to get paid as, you know, minimum to whatever they’re worth. As a creator, it’s very important for us to know our value. And that’s the difference where I am compared to me back in 2018. And that’s actually part of the reason why I started my school community, too, because I know what I can share with other people. And honestly, if people pay me, which is not too expensive. I don’t charge too expensive, but if people pay me, they’re more committed. That’s another reason why I want more serious people. And plus, I’m more committed, too. Like, we’re both more committed. So, we can both have the synergy effect and just create better result in my opinion. So, people shouldn’t be scared of that. Yeah, 100%. And I think that’s aligned incentives, especially because like I honest I think it’s totally fine to want to make money and everything from YouTube. Like and I’ve gone through the exact same thing you’ve said. The reason I didn’t post the last year and a half on my and I don’t have a big channel at all. It’s like 10 12k subs, right? But I I what do you call it? I shoe box myself too much. Like I was only focusing on this one 3D programming 3D modeling visualization software called Unreal Engine. And then I realized like I don’t actually want to just only do one software on this channel the whole time. And I probably could have just stuck to it and then like branched out, but like I don’t know. You get burnt out. You’re stuck in one place. People are like, “Hey dude, you should make a beginner course, blah blah blah.” I’m like, “I don’t know, dude. Like that’s not me.” Blah blah. I’m not I’m not a course guy. And I’m sure I totally could have done it. Like I built a good amount of trust with my community that like they don’t they’re not going to think I’m scamming them. It was also around the time when like course selling was like really looked down upon and there’s lots of bad actors out there. Like there’s some bad courses out there. So I get why people feel that way. But if you like make a good channel, you build a trustworthy relationship and you actually sell something that’s valuable, I totally agree with you. Like there’s no problem in asking for money from people who are willing to give it to you and you’re actually providing them the value. And like you said on school, like if you’re not going to provide the value, people are just going to leave your community. So like it’s a mutually aligned incentive where it’s like, hey, you pay me, I will try to help you and provide as much content and guidance or whatever it is that I can. That’s true. Cuz for me, having a mentor last year was the best investment I had because I typically Could I ask you about that? How’s the How does that whole I’ve always wanted a mentor. How does that work? I’ve been like searching for different mentorship program like what consulting program what to do and just it’s been a game changer because what he’s been giving like when it comes to advice it’s really good but not only that because I spent money my it was my mindset too like I spent this much money so I got to get something out of it so I got to actually take action so before I didn’t really take any execution because everything was free because all the courses if you look at it pretty sure all the advice that he’s giving it’s pretty pretty much online as well. But the main difference is your dedication and you also have a person right next to you who’s always the accountability. Yeah, accountability part. So I think that’s part of it too. It’s just very important to do that. Are you still with the mentor? Yeah, I am. Nice. And do you talk weekly or do you give like business updates, life updates? Like is it just an overall thing? Yeah, it’s a weekly thing. Um well, it’s not oneonone. into a group setting and uh he actually talked about me a lot on YouTube too. His name is Patrick and because we talked about like my personal brand and he suggested maybe you should go with AI route because it’s so popular and I’m like okay maybe let’s go with the AI route and I’ve been like just kind of looking upon and then I I joined the NYX community afterwards and I’m like okay pretty cool and everything just happened and like honestly execution is is the best in my opinion. And why do you think, sorry, I know you’ve got questions. I just wanted to ask you cuz there’s lots of people making AI content out there, you know? What do you think separated like why do you think you did better than others? Cuz I can tell you why I think, but like what do you think you would make in content differently? It was a packaging and thumbnail thing. It was a script writing thing. What What do you reckon it was? Yeah, actually, not to sound cocky at all, right? Like none of that. Go do it. Do it. We can edit it out like what I look like. Just kidding. Just edit it out. I’m actually the best looking person on the platform. I don’t know if you know. Can you tell? What kind of question is that? Um, are you blind? What? Oh gosh. No. Because I think it’s because I talk about my story a lot. I tend to talk about it. I try my best to talk about it. I talk about like I’m a mom of three and I’m coming from non-technical background and literally I’m showing them like step by step while working on it. So there’s one video that I literally built this one product and I shoot my video for 6 hours. I edited it obviously and then I talk about this is so frustrating like this is not working and then like they can see the whole process. So transparency is everything. And even my recent video, I talk about how much I made last month and I did a full breakdown, right? Typically, a lot of creators don’t really talk like to talk about it because they’re pretty I don’t know. They they just don’t like to talk about it. It’s taboo. Yeah. Yeah. It’s just personal. But for me, that kind of channel or that kind of videos really help me for me to just stay motivated. So I know people like me can get motivated from the real story. You know what I mean? The real thing that happened and those are like real money. You know what I mean? I’m not like lying about it. Why would I lie about that? That’s I think that’s the reason why people gravitate to me a little bit more because I’m real. Even though sometimes I get comments, are you AI? I’m like, do I look AI? Come on, people. Um, are you blind? Are you blind? Sometimes I’m like, okay, take that compliment. It’s like, all right, AI look good. It’s like, all right, whatever. But it’s just they’re like, “Are you AI?” Okay, I got to bring more personality now. You know what I mean? So that’s actually my next mission. I’m trying to grow Instagram right now just because I’ve been on Instagram with my older channel or older like Spanish thing. Grew my channel to like 100k on Instagram. But I’m starting this specific AI related. But then I want to talk about me, you know, not necessarily just AI, but like a just me and then see if people are interested in me. We’ll see. Yeah. I honestly cuz I was thinking cuz I have my creative channel on YouTube and I kind of want to only do creative stuff on that. I’m probably going to make a separate channel that’s like AI/productivity slash whatever it is. And I was thinking everything outside of YouTube could just be one thing. Like Twitter or Instagram or I’ve never I actually don’t have a Tik Tok account, but like Tik Tok would all just be like me making my YouTube stuff. Like just being like, “Oh yeah, thinking of like creative stuff. Probably going to post that.” Or like just thoughts about like all of it put together because it’s more just me and more authentic anyway. And I’ll only put stuff out that I really feel like putting out. And I’d rather not like make too many different like vent like avenues of people to like be split by. So I’d ra be like, “Yeah, Instagram, Twitter, like they they can see it’s just the same person with like similar takes or whatever it is.” Yeah. No, that’s a really good interesting take cuz I think that’s how you you will be able to stand out in the future. Future meaning in couple of months, I would say because AI is getting freaking good. I don’t know if you tried C dance 2.0 zero. Gemini, Omni, Omni, whatever. It’s okay. It’s not my favorite, honestly. It’s not like the best. You can tell it’s AI. Um, but just some of the things from Gemini is actually really good, too. Like Notebook LM I really adore, as well as Nano Banana. I love it. Yeah, I need to get on like I’ve seen Notebook LM since it was like introduced or whatever or like four, five, four years ago, I can’t remember. And I’ve still to this day not actually used it properly. Like I’ve used rag databases or like Obsidian or whatever it is. I’ve never actually put stuff into Notebook LM. How are you using it like dayto-day? Yeah. So I don’t use it on dayto-day, but I’m planning to because I’m planning to grow my LinkedIn as well. And they do have this some sort of kind of like a carousel style, right? They and they just make it for you. So if you put the link there then they will make different carousels. So that’s one feature that I really like and also like summarizing it and if you follow one of like as an example DO let’s talk about him but then he has so many different videos you don’t have time to watch all of that then just put it in notbook lm and it will summarize it for you and then as if you’re talking to Denko a little bit. So that’s the beauty of it. I don’t use it a ton just because I use a lot of everything with Claude and I don’t really like switching back and forth between different platforms because it’s just too complicated. I’m like, “Okay, I can’t handle it’s too high friction.” Yeah, I’m with you. I think you can just like go minimal and just be like, I’m just going to commit to this or like two models, you know? Yeah, that’s me with Claude and Banana Banana. I still use it um with with Google. But yeah, anyways, what I was trying to say is um the AI models are getting so good including video generation and it’s very interesting because back to what we talked about you said avatar is probably one of the best way to create personal brand a little bit you know where people can relate avatar meaning like character I meant not like humanlooking avatar because I don’t know I think humanl looking avatar could work potentially if you can differentiate yourself a little bit. As an example, if I were to do create a man and I’m woman, right? My identity that I call myself is woman, but then like I create a men and talk about how to shave their hair, whatever, you know, like shave their beard, but I can’t really talk about that. And that’s so clearly Yeah. I mean, shave their hair or whatever. Shave their sh beard. Yeah. I can’t really talk about it. It’s like, you know, but if you think about it, that’s not one of the authentic way to build a personal brand in my opinion. So, I’m not saying Asian has to be Asian or like, you know, white has to be white. No, I’m not saying that. But you have to feel somewhat related to that character. In my opinion, that’s the most important thing. You have to relate to your character. You have to show your story first. Have you ever seen K-pop Demon Hunters before, Ally? Yeah, I have. You have seen it? And I’m not even a K-pop guy. That the fact that I’ve seen it is crazy, right? I’m not a weeb. I don’t watch any anime. All my friends watch anime. It’s everywhere. Yeah, I’m an anime fan and K-pop demons. My kids love it. I love it. I like cry whenever I listen to that like hear the music. It’s so funny cuz and I’ve been thinking about why do I actually cry when I listen to this which is which sounds so dorky right now but because I relate to that character. Not necessarily because that they’re like me, but more of I relate to their story because there’s a story behind that. You know what I mean? I think it all goes back to writing. I actually think that like maybe I’m biased towards it, but as long as you’re good at writing and storytelling, it doesn’t really matter what medium that comes through. And even though I might maybe cuz I’m an old head, I’m like, “Ah, dude, the future and like everyone’s just following virtual avatars.” Like, for some reason that doesn’t sit right with me. Not that I’m mad at people using it, but I’m like, “Oh god, if like someone has a super strong parasocial relationship with like a fake virtual person, but then I’m like, that’s kind of what people are anyway with celebrities.” Like they have these parasocial relationships with real people that they’re never going to meet and like it affects their day-to-day. So, if you can do it in like a positive way and like you’re you have really good storytelling and you’re relatable and you’re providing some sort of net positive impact, I think like yeah, Avatars is to totally away whether it’s the real human stuff or like a character, the medium honestly doesn’t matter as much as long as it’s somewhat visually engaging or like you look at Aland Baton. Alan Baton, is that a person? Yeah, he’s got a Yeah, he’s a guy that what’s his channel called? The School of Life. Super great YouTube channel. 9 million subs, right? And it’s just him narrating like philosophical thoughts about stuff like you know like his latest video is called Understanding the Fear of Intimacy or like the other one the joy of pessimism and love. like it’s all like philosophical stuff, but it’s just like illustrations that basically communicate the ideas that he’s talking about. And he’s been doing this for ages and he’s like very smart, a super good writer. But I think the reason it resonates is because he’s got something that’s somewhat visually engaging. He’s never on camera. It’s just it’s just all about what he’s talking about. So I think people can totally do that. Oh yeah. No, 100%. So let’s talk about writing a little bit because you talked about a couple of times that storytelling is very important which comes from writing honestly right and I agree with you on not the you’re older old part um because you’re not old but the part of younger generations I’m talking about like Jenzie or even younger than Jenz my kids I’m thinking you know my seven-year-old when when she grows up she probably will see 98 8% AI influencer out there, you know, and they probably can’t tell which one’s what, whatever. So, how can we actually stand out is through writing, storytelling you talked about. How can we improve on writing? Like, what are some of your suggestions on that? Look, I don’t know if I’m the best person to ask. Like, I really want to be better at my writing. And I think one ways to read more. The only way to get good at something is to consume other things in that category that are also good. So, if you’re just watching or reading slop all the time, you’re probably only going to make stuff that sounds similar to what you’re consuming. It’s like content diet stuff. Like, if you only consume one side of some argument, you’re only going to think those thoughts. So, it’s the same with like writing or ideas about stuff or whatever it is. So, it’s probably consume good stuff, do it every day is like the two things you want to do, which I don’t do. I’m trying to do that more. So basically read and write. That’s what it is. It’s like you more read more and write more to become better. Do you Oh, and journaling probably. Journaling. Oh, yeah. That’s that’s huge. What do you think about AI writing script for you versus you writing it, human writing it? This is how I would go about using AI to write. First, you just do a full like raw brain dump. You just write it. like as bad as it looks, you’re using the same words over all over again. Your sentence structure sucks. You don’t have varying sentence length. Like everything’s bad about it. And that’s how I write. And then you get AI to be like, “Hey, like point out like issues that don’t even change my writing. Just like tell me like where am I going way too long? Where are my like redundant arguments? How do I have more nice like a nicer reading experience?” And like you could probably Google or go online and find some good like skills people have made that like audit scripts or like you kind of just developing your skill. It’ll tell you like this section you got to go do that again. This section do that again. And instead of it rewriting it for you, you’re rewriting it for you with like a tutor basically. I think that’s probably the best way to develop like authentic ideas because if you’re just saying what Claude is telling you, we’re kind of all just speaking bots for an AI model. If you think about it, if we’re just reading AI scripts, we’re basically just like AI voice people. If you So, interesting. I think like I know some people will just like get AI to generate the script and then they’ll change it from there. I think do it the other way around cuz it’s hard because AI makes good stuff. Like I’ll read it and I’ll be like, “Dude, this sounds good.” And then you might realize you’re just sounding the same as other people and then that’s how you don’t stand out in a way. Like if you really want to stand out, you actually need to put your original thoughts there. And I’m not saying we all have original thoughts, but something that really just like popped into your brain and you’re like, “Oh, that’s a cool concept. Let me make a video on that.” And then you write it out and then you get AI to just help make it more concise, sound better, maybe fill up some loopholes in your argument, whatever it is. Gotcha. So, you’re saying instead of having AI write it and you change it, it’s other way around. You have you write it and then have AI fix and change it. Yeah. Like use AI as your teacher. like they market almost. That’s how I would go about it. That’s very interesting. Yeah, thanks for sharing that. All right, Ally, let’s talk a little bit more about what people are actually interested in hearing as well, which is about business perspective because you mentioned it before towards earlier. You said a lot of businesses before they’re like, you’re using AI, you know, like no thank you. But then now they’re like, oh, you’re using AI. Come on, like, come on in. Right. So, do you think businesses don’t really care if it’s AI or not? What’s your thought on that? Okay, so that example was purely in like the creative space where and it’s funny, they only had that opinion when AI sucked and like now that they see AI is good, they’re like, “Oh, could you like supercharge our workflows?” So, do I think businesses care? The cynical side of me is like, dude, if they just if you’re the CEO and then you just see like better output, more money coming in, probably they don’t care as long as you’re not destroying their brand. So really, I think they just look at it as a tool. And I think as well, like especially in the business use cases, it’s all just tools. It’s just like which one are you going to use? Like are you going to write everything down on paper? No. Are you going to use a spreadsheet manually? No. Are you going to use AI? Yes. Like there’s levels to like tools you can use to complete tasks. That totally makes sense. So people who wants to create this for businesses, right? What is their best chance to do it? Because again, you just barely mentioned that as long as they don’t ruin their reputation, right? Then it’s good. Like the reason why I’m asking is because let’s just say it’s a skincare brand. One of the thing that a lot of people say it’s it’s AI like and then if the AI avatar said oh this change my skin or like it remove my agony whatever not talking about legal perspective but it’s AI like how can people actually relate to that or would people feel a little like how do I say that faked by it you know what I mean like yeah so this is purely in like creating AI generated videos for businesses Right. Yeah. So, here’s what I reckon. If it’s a big brand, you probably at the moment I would just stick to still images or if it is videos like not people in it in the video at the if it’s a huge brand. I think if it’s like small to medium like it’s fine. Do you know what I mean? And also like AI generated UGC content nowadays looks insanely good. It’s crazy. So that’s definitely viable. like local businesses, you could make like AI avatar UGC videos or whatever. I don’t know how that scales long term when everyone is doing it and then you it all comes down back to storytelling at the end of the day again where it’s like how do you just like make something more relatable or stand out more as an idea? I don’t know. It’s interesting. As long as you’re not ruining their brand, you got to be careful of their audience, too. Like if you know their audience is like very averse to AI stuff like maybe don’t or like let someone else do it. Okay. I don’t really know the regulation of this. I think there is a more regulation around AI compared to before even including YouTube. You now you got to check if this is AI or not. Right. Which is actually interesting. Some creators they totally replace themselves with AI and like a lot of news channels they do and they look exactly the same as that person. like before I even compare before and after I’m like oh holy cow he does sound like AI and AI does sound like him I can’t tell the difference but going back to skincare example do you think people will feel deceived whenever they see AI influence or they realize this is AI influencer promoting for a brand at the moment yes I think your kids maybe not maybe it’s actually funny because currently they’ll get a real person who has really good skin to promote a cream that they probably don’t use and no and no one says anything, right? They’ll get an AI to do that and they’ll be like, “What? An AI doesn’t even use this moisturizer.” And you’re like, “Dude, neither does like Kim K or whoever is like promoting that other one.” I know. That’s what I was thinking. I’m like, you know, those famous person like Kardashian, she doesn’t even use that for her hair. Like, she’s just doing some not even like her own brand. You know what I mean? It’s just that’s so funny people. So you can logically break it down and if I look at it logically I’m like it shouldn’t matter but the perception and because branding is all about perception anyways it probably would get people mad but then like some companies like well if people are mad like that’s engagement like with the Coca-Cola ad or whatever but yeah I think it would be controversial at least. Gotcha. I think also if you get some engagement in the right way, as long as it’s not super negative, like what I mean by that is um Itana Lopez, she’s a AI influencer. You do you know her? She she’s like this really hot chick who has pink hair and she’s like her body looks just perfect. That’s what it is. is AI perfect and she does a lot of fitness channel like fitness stuff and a lot of brands are actually sponsoring and then I think she’s making at least 20K a month from brand sponsorship deals but people even though they know this is AI but people still resonate with her they still relate to her because I don’t necessarily know if she’s telling story but then they do resonate to who she is because she’s been out there for so long you know what I mean I think going back to like skincare example I think is similar. As long as you’re telling the right narrative, then you should be okay. I think so. And it depends if you’re selling something or not. And that changes if people how people respond to it cuz like those brands are going to that person you mentioned because they know she has distribution and exposure, right? So they’re like, “Oh, we’ll just like if 2 million people watch this, there’s like a funnel that they’ve done the math on on how many will buy it. So they just care about numbers and exposure. But there’s definitely money in it for sure. There’s money in a lot of things right now, right? 100%. Especially around AI. So let’s just say I’m a student of UNSW and I come to you Ally and say, “Hey, Ally, I really like creating stuff, you know, related to AI, and I’m going to go with that route. How can I make full-time income out of doing this?” Like, what’s your suggestion? Tell me step by step of how I can actually do this. What would you suggest? Purely through personal brand or purely through a personal brand making like AI videos. Okay. Whatever that is. Yeah. Anything related to AI and making videos. So if you want to you either got to make cool stuff like you go the pro you got to pick a niche. So you could go the productivity route. You could be like this is how I organize my inbox or like this is how I get to inbox zero every day or this is how I organize my schedule like so it’s like knowledge based right then you could go like the creative route maybe creating cool artistic outputs with AI that’s like one way of going it needs to be some sort of knowledge thing where you’re teaching people and they want to learn from you another way is the more coaching ing or expert route where you should honestly just like get real clients and solve real problems and then that gives you some social proof to then film a video and be like this is how I solved this problem. I literally made $1,200 from it or whatever it is, right? And people go like people obviously lie on YouTube too. They’re like $10,000 website like every time. And honestly, some of it it people will pay 10K for that. So, they’re not actually fully lying, but like they’ve never sold this for $10,000. Like, it’s all packaging. So, there’s different routes about going it. It depends on where like your morals and ethics are, but I think you either go the knowledge route or you go the I just thought of this. If your niche is your mission, you go like you’re learning it live. Like you build in public where people just relate to you, you’re getting confused with stuff. People like, “Dude, I got confused with that. Let me help you.” or like they watch you figure it out. There’s a few ways you could go about it. Yeah, 100%. So, I really like what you just said just because I feel like that’s the route that you’re going right now because you have a also how many clients do you have again right now? Oh, last time I checked it was a lot. I don’t even know. You don’t even know. There’s like five to six at the moment I’m trying to juggle. Yeah. To AI clients, right? All AI clients as well. They’re all from Upwork. Is that right? Uh mix Upwork one referral and like a couple cold email I think. Okay. From me out doing outreach. But um when I say AI clients, they’re all businesses looking to speed up processes and then I just happen to use AI tools for that. Okay. Gotcha. That makes sense. So you’re focusing on solving problems. So that’s more of a agency route, the AI solutions agency route versus what we’ve been talking about is a little bit related to more of a personal brand route. So what’s your thought between agency route and personal brand route? And the reason why I’m asking is because I’ve been an agency route, you know, before, right? So I sold like this AI SEO for my first client and like dude this is actually working and then I did like email marketing and going to Upwork and it was not the route for me. I’m like I got to go back to personal brand. So do you think that route is overly saturated versus like personal brand route or like what do you think is more sustainable with AI? Okay, so this is going to sound like I’m a broken record, but you got to whatever you enjoy doing more, it’ll make you more money or whatever. Like career, it’ll be more successful. It’s kind of like a gym program that’s not fully optimized, but you show up three to four times a week every week because you just like you you you enjoy the workouts will be more beneficial than a super optimized program that makes you too tired or you have no motivation to do. I am someone and maybe you’re probably very similar. You’re one comfortable being on camera. You probably enjoy the community aspect and you like having a brand. I’m someone that also likes that. Like I also like the agency stuff, but I also need to like make money. Do you know what I mean? So I enjoy solving problems actually being in the industry too and seeing like how things are shifting and like being valuable because if you go personal brand route you have keyman risk which if for those of you that don’t know like you like everything is on you like if you stop making videos you stop making money unless you have like a business attached to it. Even the community route like if you’re not there there is no community. So, like I’m someone that likes to diversify a bit. Like I want like real job work stuff and then I want personal brand work stuff. And ideally I have income coming from both and that way not all your eggs in one basket. I truly enjoy making the videos. I probably got to just do them more and like care a bit less about the topics and stuff. I feel like you’ve done super well in consistency and just being like, “Look, this is a topic. I’m making a video on it. It’ll go out.” Whereas I’ll be like, “Hey, this is a topic.” And then 3 days in I’m like, “Ah, different topic.” So I think honestly doing both, but seeing which one you deep down think you’ll enjoy more. And the only way to do it is like actually try like make 20 videos and then tell me if you hate it. Yeah, exactly. That makes sense. I I like that too. What if your personal brand through your personal brand you built your services whether that’s an app whatever and that’s generating more money compared to your client work would you leave your clients if you are personal brand is 100 are you kid that’s the dream I think it’s a super if you like doing both that’s the superpower because you’ve made a personal brand that generates money and then you have a product that you actually believe in or like whether that’s a software or a community or coaching or whatever it is and then that also makes money. That’s a win-win in my opinion because I tell everybody even though you don’t really like camera or you can use AI because I feel like AI is just helping us to lower the bar of becoming a content creator because you can use AI influencer or you can use avatar to do that because in my opinion all this agency they’re going to get overly complicated and overly saturated overly competitive because with AI the work has gotten a lot easier. So, what I’m trying to say is outbound is going to be way harder. It’s already super hard and you got to rely on inbound a little bit through personal brand in my opinion. This is a great the Okay, cuz I forgot something. I’m just When I think personal brand, I’m thinking YouTube, but you actually could build a personal brand all on Instagram or on LinkedIn. You pick a channel because you’re right. We’ve talked about this offline before. in two years or one year when Claude Fable 8 comes out and it’ll just destroy everything, right? In like in a good way, like maybe in a good way or a bad way, but basically you just say, “Hey, optimize this process.” It’ll literally just go and do that. Like the CEO can just type that in. I know they might not need us anymore. They won’t need us anymore, right? So that is where you need something that you own and that is unique to you. And that is where personal brand, whether it’s you writing a blog, going on Substack, making YouTube videos, making short form content, making LinkedIn posts, there’s lots of really successful Substack writers out there. Like, if you don’t want to be on camera, just write, but do it every day. Like, you need some way of distribution, and you need to have original thoughts and ideas in there for people to actually care about why you’re saying what you’re saying. Gotcha. Gotcha. I think for you, Ally, you got to drop some of some of your clients and then really focus on your personal brand more because you’re naturally really good at camera like speaking uh your channel. Like I really enjoy that 50 minute of you talking that just background great. I’m like this he’s so artistic and then the way that you articulate and just explain things very philosophical and very easy to listen to. So I feel like people resonate with you a little bit more if you show up more. That’s what it is. Like even your No, you’re right. He He remembered his password. Did you see that comment? I did. I did. I I like I harded that comment. You’re You’re so right though. I don’t know why it’s like such a classic like, “Well, I need I need a business going.” And then you’re like, “But longterm your brand will help you make a business quicker and like scale more.” So like, I just need to Yeah. drop some I just need to free up more time. It’s an opportunity cost, right? You’re investing in your future a little bit. It’s all about opportunity. Right now, I’m really busy, like super busy with going back and forth and doing this and you’re still working full time. Yeah, I’m still working full time and mothering. And mothering. Yeah. And also like client work, right, which I’m about to drop because I’m like, oh, I can’t really do all of this school and YouTube, which I work at night after work, after full-time job. That’s what I do. So there’s opportunity cost over there. How do I do this? Is because I spend less time unfortunately with my kiddos because whenever I’m working that means I can’t really spend time with them. But my thought is you know what right now it’s a golden time for me to like really really build my business so I can gain more time so I can spend more time with them because right now I’m I’m handcuffed with my full-time job, right? Or at least I was before. But now the amount of income that I generated last month, which was close to like 50K last month, I’m like, “Oh, holy cow. This is actually possible. Like, you can literally do this.” Yeah. It’s only going to get better, I think, if you are dedicated. Yeah. Yeah. Whoever wins, they’ll have the most reps. Unless they’re like some anomaly super genius creative who make like a video every 3 months and get like 4 million views. Like un and that’s most likely not you, whoever’s listening, but like try it out. I’m not saying don’t do it, but like it’s all about consistency because even those people that post once every 3 months, it’s a banger video and they’re always there every 3 months. So like there’s still consistency there. Yeah, I love that. Thank you. All right, Ally, for those of them who’s just lost with this AI world, AI news, what is one suggestion you would give to them? Don’t read or watch the news at all if it does not affect your life. Probably less social media time because the FOMO. If you’re someone that’s susceptible to FOMO, just don’t even go on cuz like it’s fine. If you’re trying to make money, you need to be doing some sort of outreach or active job like applying to jobs, going on Upwork, doing something. I think using these AI tools, whichever one it is, business related stuff, marketing related stuff, like niche things, audio stuff, whichever one, if you pick up those tools and you’re actually valuable, people will pay you for it. So, just pick something, go all in on it. Ideally, you have some enjoyment in it. So, like, pick an experiment. Just be like, “Hey, I’m just going to go all in on this one thing for a month and see where I’m at after a month.” If you hate it, you pivot. If you don’t hate it, you just keep going and you’ll probably end up making money out of it somehow. That’s interesting. Oh, and with the personal brand, just post it every day. Do something every day or every week or whatever. Yeah. What about like if they want to learn just if you can suggest one tool for them instead of 10 billion different tools, what would that be? Just one. just pick one of the big players like Claude, Open AAI or one of them and just learn to do valuable work in one of those things or honestly hidden little secret maybe I think especially in the future learning about how to do all these AI tools like the local models and stuff and teaching businesses especially if they’re medical businesses or law businesses like hey how do you do all this AI stuff locally that’s not connected to the internet super valuable cuz I Data privacy is going to be a huge thing as we start going in the future. Everyone’s connected. People are going to be looking for the offline way to use AI tools. They already are and it’s honestly really easy to set up. You could learn it in like a few days, maybe a week. So those three things. Tell me a little bit more about that. Actually, y know, I’m very fascinated by that. And then for those of them who’s listening, that’s actually a really good way to make money. Like because I talked to one of those medical field when I was doing outreach, that was their concern. It’s like I don’t want AI to know all of my customers information, HIPPA, whatever. How do you set that up locally? Are you talking about just the HTML file or like what does that mean? So, like, cuz I’m looking into this more, too, because I have this lawyer client in the pipeline that’s coming up and me and this one guy who’s doing the job together. We’re trying to look for like offline ways to process their documents essentially. There’s like lots of sensitive info and law documents, right? So, all you got to do really, there’s like a few good local open- source models out there like Gemma 4 by Google. Some of the Chinese ones, I think Quen is a really good one. There’s also I can’t remember you can just Google it, go on claw or whatever, you’ll find the latest ones. But the only bottleneck is you need like somewhat of a decent computer which is why you see people buying Mac minis everywhere or something else. But basically what you could do is either help a business literally install this computer in their physical office or you can also buy like a they call it like a container or a Docker container online and host everything there. But yeah, just invest in a PC or a decent computer that you can just run at home and then literally ask Claude, “How do I install a local model here?” And then turn off your Wi-Fi and you’ll be able to use it. And it’s actually pretty amazing. It’s like really cool to use. So you can use as an example, if I want to use Claude, can I use Claude offline? Is that what you’re talking about? Claude does not really have like a local offline opensource model, but OpenAI has one where you can just download it. It’s like a big file, like a big GitHub repo, but you can download it and actually use it and they it’s like trained on lots of stuff. Basically, this is how I look at it. The current offline open-source models are basically where AI was one year ago. So whatever AI was at about a year ago, you could do that completely for free offline and like it’s really good. It’s still really good. Interesting. That’s awesome. So it’s a little bit outdated, but then it’s more safe way to protect people’s information because it’s local. It’s local. And if you’re just doing like processing documents and receipts and tax invoices, like dude, AI can definitely still do that a year ago. Like you could But yeah, I think that’ll be a big thing in the future. Yeah, that’s awesome. I did my taxes with AI last year. Yeah. Nice. Dang. Super smart. But thank you, Ally, so much for being here. I really appreciate your time. If there is only one thing that you want to tell to this audience, what would that be? Stuff will only happen if you do stuff. Honestly, like the YouTube rabbit hole. I’m the guy that’s addicted to YouTube. Just like pick something and just execute. Like only do things every day. Even if it’s like half an hour a day, an hour a day, that stuff compounds.

  • 06/07/2026 – AI Motion Graphics That Don’t Look Like PowerPoint – Claude Design vs Hyperframes vs Remotion

    I’m not the video editor, but hiring video editor to edit my videos on YouTube was quite the journey for me. So instead, I hired Claw Code to become my AI video editor. And surprisingly, they’re fairly good. In the past, I created AI agent to become my video editor using Clog Code. And this is a specific instruction of how you can also set your AI agent to become your editor. And the cost per video was fairly inexpensive compared to hiring somebody. If you were to hire somebody to edit your video, it costs anywhere between $300 to $500 per video for long form. But hiring Clock Code, it costed less than $1 per video. Now, is Clock Code perfect? No, not at all. Compared to those experienced editors, Clock Code is not perfect at all. In fact, I use one of the most popular platform called Hyperframes, Remotion, and Cloud Design to see if they can mimic one of those professional editors. And this is the result that I got from Remotion. Pretty lame to be honest. It looks like somebody just put everything together into presentation. Make animation skills from presentation back in 2018. That’s what this looks like. So I tried hyperframe instead of emotion to see if it’s better. Is open source that hey Jen actually created and I wanted to see if they’re better. So I gave the exact prompt. All right. It’s got a little bit more emotion, a little bit more background. However, it still looks pretty lame too. This does not look like one of those professional editor has edited this. So I thought to myself, okay, what about cloth design? Do you think that’s going to be better? And this is what I got from claw design. This also looks like one of the presentation back in 2018. So this actually made me think, all right, maybe it’s me. Maybe my prompt sucks. So I got to really work. So, I spent hours working on my prompt to see if this actually works because Hyperframes and Remotion, they are open- source, which means they’re free that you can use. You don’t have to pay for their services right now, which is fantastic. Eventually, I think they might, but right now, it’s open source, so you can definitely use that. As long as you have subscription to Claude, you can also use Claw Design. And I personally use this a lot. So, we’re going to compare what is the best platform for us to use to edit videos using Claude. But before we talk about how we can use it, I like to talk about what it is first so that you can differentiate between different platform. Although they all seem very similar, they are completely different platform. Meaning if you use the same prompt to hyperframes, remotion and claw design, you are going to get a very different response. So what I want you to do is always tailor your prompt to the right platform and that way first of all you’re not wasting your credit because at the end of the day you’re still using hyperframes and remotion using claw code which means you’re using clause credit and same thing with claw design. I don’t want you to just waste credit. So it’s important for us to understand what this platform is and that way we can create the right prompt. And by the way, I have already put this into one skill that you can download and that way you don’t have to learn what prompt is better and all that because I already spent hours figuring that out. I just want to give it to you so you’re not wasting your time. Obviously after downloading the prompt, you can customize it as much as you want. But let’s go with the hyperframes first. So what is hyperframes? Hyperframes again it is a platform that hey Jen has created as an open source. Hyperframes is built on HTML which simply means website and this actually is a great platform if you are to create because I’ve tried hyperframes and claw design but I found that hyperframes is the best when it comes to creating bureau for yourself. Remotion is built on react which means it has a lot more control whenever you’re creating video. However, you’re not going to get the result that you want right away. It takes time for you to get the result that you want, especially with Remotion. And when I first tried Remotion with my older laptop, which was Mac Air, Remotion wasn’t really working. It paused in the middle of it and I got really frustrated. So, I decide to use it again with my new laptop that I just bought. It’s working just fine. But again, my prompt I had to get there in order for me to get the best result from which we’re are going to talk about how you can get the better result using this clot design is by far honestly my favorite because you don’t have to install anything. You don’t have to put anything into the terminal. Although remotion and hyperframes installing wasn’t difficult at all, which we are also going to go over that later in this video. But Claw Design has been the easiest for me to use. So I tend to always go back to Claw Design and ask specifically what I want and Claude Design will make a B-roll video for me. So in my opinion, I use this very often, especially because I have a Max plan using Claude. Now I haven’t used Claude Design with Pro plan. So I don’t know how much you can actually create B- rolls in there, but Max plan you can create quite a bit. And honestly, you don’t have to really learn what language hyperframe is using. HTML, CSS, Remotion, React,JSX, and Cloud Design Plain English. You don’t have to write down this in HTML to create videos like this because you know what? Claude Code will do that for us. you are only speaking in a plain language for all of these different platforms because inside clock code will turn your native language into the language that they understand which is HTML over here. So this is one of the example that hyperframes has and this is also one of the example that remotion has. So as you can tell hyperframes is a lot better when it comes to B-roll compared to this type of B-roll. It just looks pretty generic in my opinion. But let’s go back here. So earlier in the video, I’ve showed you claw design and reotion and hyperframes how they generated very plain B-roll for me. And this is the exact prompt that I used. Created animated stat sequence showing 135 workers laid off in 2026. 900 people per day. 49% expect more layoff this year. Dark background, bold white numbers. each stat phase in one by one with a subtle red accent color. So when I gave the exactly same prompt in different platform, that’s the result that I got because I didn’t really customize it at all. So customization and having the right prompt is so important. Hyperframe is like a web designer. You’re designing the whole B-roll and you’re timing in seconds, not necessarily frames. So you have to make sure you’re giving the exact seconds of how you want to design your video. Versus remote is not in seconds. If you were to give exactly same prompt, Remotion will struggle. Instead, it’s in frames. So you’re giving very specific details of hey, these are the detail of times in frames. Remotion will understand the best when you communicate that way. So it’s more of a developer or programmer that you can think of versus clot design is a creative director, which is perfect. You don’t need any technical language at all. Although those two you can also speak a native language to cloud code but they also have to transfer that native language write prompt to their language that they understand. But cloud design is all about understanding your brand kit like the story the vibe of your company and editing after them giving you the video. Let’s just say you want to change a couple different sections. Clot design has been the fastest compared to these two. So that was pretty cool. So, I put a couple different prompts in here that we can try and see what works the best. But, let’s go over how we can actually use hyperframes and remotion. So, hyperframes, I’ll put the link in the description below where you can have step-by-step instructions about this, but all you have to do is go to hyperframes.hen.com and you copy this skill and you just have to type it to clot code and that’s it. You can use the clot code terminal, you can use the clot code chat. Either way, they are going to make this work. So, just type this exact prompt. And same thing with Remotion. If you go to remote.dev dev, you just copy this one right here. This very first section. Click copied and go back to claw code, which in this case, I’m using claw code on anti-gravity IDE. This is important because they just recently launched anti-gravity IDE instead of just anti-gravity platform, which freaked me out, by the way. I freaked a ton of people out because I’m like, why? How come my clock code is not working? Yeah. Anyways, if you want to use clock code using anti-gravity, just download anti-gravity IDE and then this is where you can use it. And you just simply type this and click enter. In this case, I already have downloaded all. But when you’re putting this especially for hijen hyperframes there are 15 skills that automatically that will be downloaded for your designing skills which is perfect and formotion similar they have some template that they are going to download but I already have downloaded these templates and if they want you to download a couple different things and that’s related to video editing go ahead and do that. So basically this is how you get started. I’ll save this into skill. If you’re part of my community, you can find the skill under resources. If you’re not part of my community and you still want that skill, then you can click the link in the description below and I’ll have the skill saved in here in the notion doc. But one thing about this notion doc is if you were to click this, you’re going to see this random alien language. So instead of clicking it, you just click this six dots and click download. Go to Claude, click customize, click skills, plus sign, create skills, upload skill. This is where you can upload the skill and use it for yourself. So before prompting anything to clot code because you’re going to use their credit a lot. I typically use sonnet 4.6 in claw chat. Clot chat sonnet 4.6 is less expensive compared to opus 4.7 or 4.6. Haiku 4.5. It is the cheapest model out there for Anthropic, but I just don’t like it because there are just too many errors and it’s just not as good. So, I just like to go right in the middle of Shaun 4.6. And you have to say slash and what you have to do is slash SL- AI-B. This is a skill that you just barely saved. And then you’re going to explain what kind of videos that you like to create. Make sure that you specify I want to use hyperframes for this specific thing. Let’s just say you want to create a video of statistics. You want to talk about how you were able to make $1,000 using Cloud Code and you want to use that statistics and the graph to the audience and you’re wanting hyperframes to create that, then you can specifically tell Cloud Code to do that. And for this one, I already have a prompt for hyperframe specifically. So, I just put it on here. And as you can tell, for hyperframe from it is by time frame, right? So it has a very specific 0.8 gap, 0.6 seconds versus remotion is time in frames, right? 30fps and all this information that you don’t really have to learn, but clock code did that for us. So once you are okay, this is fairly interesting. I just put this information using my skill using claw chat, just a regular chat, and it has given me a video like this. Fascinating. So let’s go over just a regular cloud code and see what will happen if I ask hyperframes to create the video like this. Then it will save a video. But if you want to see it in studio in HTML format, it will have a studio so you can see live what they’re building. Let me show you what I mean by that. Let’s just use this prompt for remote. You can see live what they’re building. And one of the ways that you can ask is ask cloud code to open studio. Hey, I want to see this live what you’re building. So, open remotion studio for me. Then it’s going to create local host studio where you can look at this in live time and then pause the video and just click it and then you can render the video as well. So, this is one of the cool features that you can use. But going back to remote, it looks like the remote part is all taken care of. I asked Remotion to open this in studio and this is what I got from stats here and there compare to Claude chat which is this one right here. But still this looks way too lame in my opinion and even those tutorials out there on YouTube. I get it but I think a lot of tutorials are hype. Honestly, this remotion thing is not my favorite. But if you really work on the remote over and over with the right prompt, it’s going to get better. It’s just not there just yet. And it takes a long time for you to create a prompt that looks good. So it is all the opportunity cost right there. As an example, this is one of the graph that I created before for my previous video and it talks about breakdown of my income. And so I specifically asked Remotion to emphasize whenever I talk about the specific section, which they did really well, but as you can tell from up over here, the letters are merging together. And this is not bad, but the letters merging together. You can definitely work on it. And again, you have to go back and forth a couple of times to make it better. This is what I created using Claw Design. Exactly the same prompt that I created. And in my opinion, Cloud Design was faster to use it and it was quicker to edit as well. And I like the glowing effect. This is exact B-roll that I use in my previous video using Cloud Design. Okay, it looks like the Hyperframes is also done. So, let’s take a look at this. Hyperframe has put this into the Hyperframe studio. You can also have them download as well. But before downloading everything, if you like to just see what it looks like, opening up a studio is one of the best way to do that. So you’re not going back and forth between saving the video and then deleting the video and it’s just one extra step. So let’s take a look at this. Okay, this looks not good. Honestly, hyperframes and the reotion, same thing. It’s just again the prompt could have been better. However, compared to the very first video that I show you, it’s a lot better. So this is what I found out after using a couple of times and making this a little bit better. I end up getting the B-roll looking like this, which is not too bad if you think about it. If you work on this a little bit more, this is a lot better than one of those generic PowerPoint B-roll looking that I just barely show you. So, how did I do this? That’s exactly what I’m going to share with you right now. One of the ways that I figured this out is there is a platform called auto.online. For me, I’m not paying anything. I’m on the free version over here. I’m trying things out because I’m not downloading everything from here. So once you sign in, you don’t have to pay for anything. Then you just click this template over here and then click all templates. One of the benefit of this website is if you were to customize it and then put your own information, then you can and just download it. So super simple, right? So if you want to pay for it, you can. I’m not sponsored by them, by the way. But what I would do is if I like this style, I will ask Claude to learn the style and then create a prompt to mimic this style. In this case, I’m not going to use this because I talk about statistics. So maybe I can do data and comparison and see if I can use this instead. So as an example, if I want to use this, then I would copy this link, give it to Claude and say, I need you to create a prompt for hyperframes. What this website has the background and the color, the primary font, accent motion right here, it’s going up. Okay, let me copy this and go back to clawed code and feed this prompt to claw code for hyperframes and see how that goes. I do want to mention one thing really fast because the result that I just barely got wasn’t the result that I necessarily wanted. So, I did double check with Claude what’s happening, but Claude apparently can read the website but can’t really preview this animation. So what you need to do in this case what I did is I just screenshot the whole thing after the animation is done and then explain what exactly happened the graph going up and just screenshot this and then feed it to Claude and Claude was able to give me the prompt that kind of matches this animation. So let’s take a look at this monthly impressions and the numbers are there and it has some numbers on top. All right, do you see the graph going up? This is exactly what we saw in the other platform and clock code has tried to mimic that a little bit. Obviously, it’s not perfect because it has like some numbers cut off from here and there, but you can edit it. Again, asking code and then using hyperframes, but whenever you did that, you’re using credit. So, having a good solid prompt is really important. All right. Now that we use hyperframes as well, but it’s quite the journey there, right? you have to go to this website and even look for the frames and screenshot it. It takes a long time in my opinion. So, personally, I don’t use hyperframes nor reotion because I don’t think they’re good just yet. I think it will get there, but they’re not there yet. So, what I personally use for my videos is I actually use claw design. Yeah, this will has been the simplest way for me. And with claw design, you have to go back and forth a couple of times, find your own design. But in my opinion, this is good enough. Honestly, I wish I really wish there a download button from Club Design Entropic. If they are even watching this video, I hope they make this download button here. This will change the whole game. But they don’t have it. So, what I typically do is let’s just say I want to use this specific statistics that they’re using right now. Then I click present and click new tab. Open in a new tab. And literally when I’m recording a video and I screen share exactly what I’m doing, I put it on the side and then screen share and then I talk at the same time. So that can be one of the B- rolls or I don’t even have to show my face and only show this in a full screen and that will look like one of the B-rolls that editor has made. And this is honestly not bad at all. This one right here kind of looks like one of those editor has created, right? And one of the best thing is you can literally customize and change it right away. So in my opinion out of all these three platforms, hyperframes, reotion or claw design, I think one of the best thing that you can use if you want to get some boost for your video and adding some B- rolls or some fancy animation. I think claw design is probably one of my favorite features out of all and one of the best feature. Again, I’m not affiliated with any of the platform in here nor sponsored by any of it. This is just from my personal experience. After trying it for a couple of hours, couple of days, I figured, you know what? This is actually one of the easiest and this is one of the best results that I got. But just make sure the claw design whenever you’re designing it, make sure you put the brand kit information. Meaning, if your brand is green, then make sure that it’s green so that your V-roll is somewhat related to your brand kit. My case, I’m gold. I share gold a lot. So that’s why when I share, you just see a lot of yellow/ gold style over here, black and white. But it really depends what you want to do. And then you have claw design change it. And they can just do some sort of like minimalism look too. And they can do it all for you. I hope this video was helpful.

  • 06/07/2026 – How I’d Build a Personal Brand With Faceless Channel Using AI

    You want to build your personal brand and grow your business online, but you don’t want to show your face. So now you’re stuck. You watch all the tutorials out there and try to grow your online presence with faceless YouTube channels and you maybe post a couple different videos and then you didn’t get the success that they are talking about. And I’m sure that’s really frustrating because you put that much time and effort into this and probably wondering, is this even working? I’m here to tell you I know exactly where you’re at because I’ve been there. I’m an AI content strategist and I’ve been a content creator since 2018. Grew my channel to 550K across three platforms. And just 6 months ago, I grew this channel that you’re watching to 31,000 followers on YouTube using AI. And just recently, 3 weeks ago, I launched this private community where people can ask me questions, I can connect with them, and we have weekly calls. But one of the common questions that I get is, Sandy, how do I build a personal brand if I don’t want to show my face? Some people said English is not their native language or they are camera shy or they just hate recording themselves. Whatever their reason is, I’m here to walk you through exactly how you can overcome that huddle. But not only that, I’ll show you in live demo how you should also create content. And I’m going to use my sister as an example for this video. She doesn’t know I’m using her as an example, but she is in her 30s. She’s a teacher in South Korea and she’s pretty camera shy when it comes to camera recording herself. She just hates doing that and English is not her native language. And on top of that, she has a full-time job, like full full-time. She has no time to spend in learning content creation. So, I need to give her a method where it’s fast for her to plug and play so she can build her online presence without showing her face. So, make sure to watch until the end of the video so you can see the live demo of how I would do it for my sister. So, when it comes to creating faceless content, I want you to remember this framework called soul. It’s S O U L. S stands for story. You’re sharing your story with other people so that you can differentiate yourself amongst all different AI creators or even just nonAI creators out there. This is the very important step and this is something that AI cannot touch because if you think about AI, they don’t have any story. They can make up story but they’re not real. You have to make sure that your story is behind your content, behind your AI, influencer or avatar, character, faceless channel, whatever you decide to do, you make sure your story is behind it. And O stands for own your niche. Now, there are so many different tutorials out there that talks about this niche will work for Faceless Channel. This niche will work for this and that. Yeah, I get that. But if you actually think about all these Disney characters as an example, like Winnie the Pooh, some people they relate to Winnie the Pooh and they like that better compared to like Tiger in there or Piglet in there. Do why do you think that is? And it’s not necessarily just because what they look that’s part of it, but it’s the most important thing is what kind of story that they have behind the content related to the first point which is story. So because you have story back of your avatar influencer or faceless channel, it’ll be easier for you to own the niche that you have. You don’t necessarily have to chase the niche that other people suggest in terms of making money. It’s like go with the financial niche. Talk about crypto. That will be good. You know, if that’s not what you’re into, don’t talk about it because soon enough you’re going to get overwhelmed and eventually give up. So that’s not the route that I suggest. And I’m going to walk you through exactly where to go next after talking about this. Use stands for use AI. AI is a tool guys. This is very important that I want you to know. AI is just a tool that will help us to amplify our voice rather than replacing us. Now, a lot of people in this world right now, they’re scared of AI. They just think AI is going to replace us. And maybe some of it is true. However, what AI is replacing is not human. They’re replacing the repetitive work that human did. In some ways, I believe AI helped us to be more true to ourselves. If you think about it, in the past, we always heard you got to work really hard and if you put 10,000 hours into this, then you will get this result because you put that much time blah blah blah. But right now with AI, everything has changed because you can faster the work process and everybody can be a developer. Look at me. I developed two different apps using cloud code. Things has changed since couple years ago. Now with AI, pretty much almost everything is possible now. Is that a bad thing? I don’t think so. It’s giving more opportunity for people to show them who they really are. I call this inside out method where you find who you are, your true self, and then you’re pulling yourself out to the world. So AI has helped us with this inside out method where you can literally show who you are and be more authentic with the help of AI. With this specific case, you are going to use AI to faster the process when it comes to growing your presence online. And lastly, L stands for layer the character. Now, this specifically means you you’ll be using a couple different tools to make sure that you get the right AI avatar, influencer, or character. So that so you can have a content that you resonate a little bit more and then you can have more consistency and people can relate more. So we are going to talk about this a little bit later in this video. So just make sure to keep in mind this is what it is. Story on your niche use AI layer character. So let’s talk about the story part first. I mentioned that in order for you to stand out you need to have your own story. It’s important that you go through this process. So I have this website called slestudio.com sleeudio.com. I’ll put this in the description below. But this is the section that I want you to try which is personal brand blueprint. Now personal brand blueprint is going to use the framework called ikiguai. Ikiguai is a Japanese concept. It means the reason for being. It’s pretty much asking those deep questions to find out who you truly are so that you can be the better representative of yourself to the world. This is a free tool that I put together, but if you don’t want to use it here, my suggestion is go to Claude and then put the exactly same question in Claude. Now, I use Chat PT and Perplexity for this specific exercise, but I found out has been the most powerful tool when it comes to personal branding. I don’t know why, but Claude just worked better when it comes to really resonating and then giving you good feedback. So, let me try this as an example. I’m going to put my sister’s name in here. And I’m actually going to put my email address so that she doesn’t get emailed. And this case, what I’m going to say is I’m not going to say I already have a channel or niche, but I’m going to click I’m just starting out. And here are the questions that they have. They have four different questions. My suggestion to you is if you have never done this before, then I want you to go back to the older method. What is the old method? No technology method. So back in the day, what did we do whenever we want to find answers? Typically, we read books or we ask people some questions or we meditate. So this specific step, that’s what you can do. go to one of the rooms or one of the spot that you’d like where there’s no distraction, no technology distraction, no AI, no phones, and just bring a pen and paper, write down these questions because these are very deep questions and very important for you to answer for yourself. Nobody else can tell you except for you. So, write down the four different questions and when you are done with it, come back to it and then you can fill it out here. But for the sake of this video, I’m going to fill this out so you know exactly what you’re going to get. So the very first question is, what do you love to do? I’m going to say for her case, I love to teach English to Koreans. Teaching is what I’m passionate about. I love communicating with students, whether the student is teenagers to grown adults to seniors. I just love doing that. Obviously, the more you write it here, the better it is. And by the way, for the voice right now, I’m just using this with rifflow. So, let’s do the next one. What are you great at? I’m great at connecting with people and teaching. And also, I’m great at listening to other people and solving problems. My sister’s really good at those things and a lot more, but I’m just going to keep it simple. What does the world need right now? The world needs education. So, especially in Korea, a lot of people are interested in wanting to learn English, especially in this AI era where English is pretty necessary for them to learn different coding skills. Even though Korean would work, but in order for them to communicate more accurately, they need to learn English. And the last question is, what can you be paid for? I can be paid for teaching English, whether that’s a private tutoring or group coaching or teaching at school. That’s something that I can definitely get paid for in South Korea. I was hammering down on this teaching English part because just because that’s her full-time job, but you can write down whatever you like. You can even go back to your childhood and write it down what happened in the past or with your former job or current job. Feel free to do it. It’s going to build a personal blueprint for you. What they have is they have a ideal customer avatar which is ICP ideal customer person and it has a brand voice and content pillars. And after that’s all done then I’m going to feed this to claw chat instead of cloud code. So let’s take a look at this for Lily. Her brand positioning is I help Korean professionals and students master English communication so they can thrive in AIdriven global economy using empathetic teaching method that makes learning feel natural competence feel okay this is actually pretty good brand positioning is that what about ideal customer avatar okay I gave a pretty generic broad but you I want you to be more specific than anywhere between 16 to 65 that’s way too broad gap right and brand voice and tone is clear, warm, encouraging, practical. Great. Now we’re talking about the content pillar. This is the important part. The first content pillar is we are doing English or AI era. Yeah, this is actually very important because AI is hot for sure. So when it comes to content, I know your niche might not be related to AI at all, but if somehow if you can relate AI to your niche right now or to your content, you will get more views, meaning you’re going to attract more people, right? Views equals people watching behind your content. So that’s why this is good. And the second one is confidence over perfection and real world English skills. Number four, teaching that lessons learning at any age. Perfect. So, you can read all of that. And what you can do is download PDF right here. I’m going to save this. And then the next thing that I’m going to do is I’m going to feed this to Claude right now. And I have couple skills that you can use specifically for this. And if you’re already in my community, I’ll put in the resources so you can check out the skills. And if you’re not, I will put it in the notion doc where you can download the skills. But something that’s really important is if you were to download a skill as an example like this. If you just click it, alien language over here. So what you need to do is just click this little dot and click download and then feed this skill. Go back to claude. Click customize. Click skills plus sign. Create skills. Upload a skill. This is where you can upload a skill for yourself. But for this specific video, you can use a skill called SL icky guy right here, which it will do the research for you. Remember the what does a world need part. If you’re confused, you’re like, I don’t know what the world needs, Sandy. You’re guessing, but this is actually doing the research. Collage will go out and do the research for you and tell you exactly what does the world need. So that’s one of the skills. The other skill is personal brand blueprint. It’s kind of similar to icky guy, but it’s actually hammering down of how you can build your personal brand. So, this is a skill that you can use. I’ll put in the description below. But for now, let’s just say you’re pretty defined. You’re like, “This is good. I really like this content pillar that this guy has given me. I’m good to go. I don’t need to make any adjustments.” Then, what you can do is we are going to use this platform called Hickfield Supercomputer. So, for some of you who’s not technical, you’re like, I don’t even want to learn cloud code. This is too confusing. Then all you have to do is use this AI agent that Hicksfield barely launched. I’ll feed this PDF over here and I’ll say this. Okay, I want you to read this PDF. And now you know my ideal customer person. Specifically, I’m going to schedule a week worth content. I’m doing Instagram and Tik Tok and I will be posting two times a day. And I want you to create 14 contents in total. But we are going to test two content first for this specific video. I want you to make it sound natural and use natural language and come up with a script that makes sense. When it comes to teaching English to Korean speakers, the base language will be Korean and you’ll be adding English here and there. Since you are teaching English and Korean, okay, so I put the prompt over there. They have a skill that Hicksfield also put together in here. And you’re more than welcome to try all these different skills over here. Honestly, I’ve tried this part like cut my hourlong interview to five different vertical clips because it’s been days since I’ve been playing with this. That wasn’t my favorite feature per se just because I know they’re still working on this platform. They just barely launched this. But if you look at this here as an example, the screen is cut off, right? the part that they got was good but then just the screen share part was not as accurate and even though I prompted I tried in a couple different ways. Now this part it’s okay when I don’t have a screen share but then if I have a screen share it just cost and the other thing that you can also try for yourself is creating your AI avatar. Now you can do a couple different ways. You can just put it in here and go straight here and then have create the AI avatar in here or you can go to hickfield.ai AI and create a AI avatar in here as well. I record another video you can watch of how to create AI avatar. But this is pretty cool because I recently did an interview with Equi and she looks like this. She’s very pretty and then she put her hair really cute. And when I put this link of our podcast together, they created this AI avatar that kind of looks like her and then they even put this hair looking like her, too. All right. So, I want you to take a look at this. This is pretty interesting. Okay, except for the subtitle. I don’t know what happened here. This is definitely not English, but let’s take a look. I think it’s really important to have that domain expertise and understand the business needs. The chions would from expertise and one or two teasers that Men’s company AI is only as good as the humans who direct it. I don’t know if that was English honestly towards the end of it like why am I not understanding what they’re talking about? But also take a look at this. This is kind of interesting, too. This is one of the AI influencer that I created a couple weeks ago, but this sounds really natural. Stop trying to learn a thousand different AI tools. It’s a quick way to burn out. You don’t need a computer science degree. Pick one single issue a business near you is actually facing. Solve that issue for them for free using a simple cloud project, iterate based on their feedback, and share that case study on LinkedIn. That is how expert consulting careers are actually born. And I’m not just saying that. So, that sounds really realistic. I mean, this is using Cance 2.0, Zero, which is one of the best AI video generation platform that I think that you can use. But anyways, yeah, it sounds very natural. She looks natural. I don’t know why she did this towards the end of it, but you know, it’s AI. Anyways, I wanted to just tell you that you are more than welcome to play around different skills that they have. And I did play around different skills, but I found out this probably is one of the best way that you can go with, which is just building something from the scratch and building something on your own. build a personal brand behind the content. So, what I’m going to do is I’m going to use element and I’m going to use this girl right here, Nina. She’s going to be my AI influencer. And save it. And then this is what I can do. Just do at and then just click Nina. Perfect. And you can do two different ways. Auto run without asking or confirm before running. I’m just going to do auto run for this one since I’ve done confirm before. So, I just want to see what it comes out with. And I also tested Korean to see what it sounds like. It didn’t sound too bad. Okay, I know you don’t speak Korean, but just see if it sounds natural to you. That moment when someone asks you, that’s you.

    Some of like the first video, you can’t really tell that this is AI, which is crazy, but they are kind of awkward. They’re still a little awkward. So, what we’re going to do is we are going to use the text field computer just to see what they come up with cuz I’m really curious to hear it. And the other thing I don’t know if you noticed but the voice keep change and the voice was just different. So the other thing what you can do is you can go to hixfield.ai and then you can connect your model for the voice and you can actually use lapse feature in here and that way you can have a consistent voice feature too. So we’re going to wait on this but while we wait I want to talk about one feature. Remember I mentioned that I want this to be scheduled. I don’t have that much time. You work on this for me. So basically what you just barely did is you hire the full marketing team for your content creation. You the brand strategist and the creator video editor and you can actually schedule this so it’s more automated. Now it doesn’t have a feature of posting that’s something else that you can use like potato as an example for the posting part. for content creation part and scheduling it. Go back to the Hickfield and then you can just try in the chat over here is and then tell Hickfield I want you to schedule creating two videos per day for a week and that’s it. As simple as that. Okay, perfect. Everything is just boom. I was waiting and then there you go. It’s done. So it has a video generator over here. It’s in Korean. It’s I don’t know why it’s in Korean, but it just talks about that theuler Kuran is taken care of and it’s going to put it for a week twice a week. That’s what I said. So, let’s take a look at this video.

    This is really good, guys. It’s like scary good. I’m sorry that I know this was in Korean because I wanted to use a very specific case that my sister would use. And also wanted to tell you if your target market is not English and then you’re wanting to do like Spanish or like Arabic, whatever language that you speak, you’re more than welcome to do that. And what does this tells us? Let’s just say you don’t speak Chinese, but you want to target this Chinese market as an example. You can use this, but obviously you’re not going to understand what this is talking about. The Chinese people will. They will understand what you’re talking about because this is so freaking good. And Korean is not easy. So I’m if AI got Korean, it probably will get a lot of different languages. All right, I hope this video was helpful. I just wanted to show you in a very simple way how you can actually make faceless channel successful.